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AlexvonAuen
Rising Traveler
2 years ago

Does Sims 4 support a 21:9 ultra widescreen monitor?

I'm sure someone must have already asked this question but I can't seem to find any threads.
Am considering purchasing a new screen (and either PC or laptop), which would be used for general PC use (internet, e-mail, etc.) and playing Sims 4 (for which I would like a larger screen).
My current (rather new) screen is a HP U28 4K HDR with 60 Hz, which is lovely....except for the size and FPS.
My first thought was simply upgrading to a HP U32 HDR....but that also has only 60 Hz (i.e., max. of 60 FPS) and no G Sync support.
Am now considering a 34 inch monitor with 21:9 to get a bit more 'real estate' (pun intended) when playing Sims 4.

Main question: Is Sims 4 playable on a ultra widescreen 21:9 or would the game be stretched (i.e. distorted) to fill the entire screen?
Also, would a screen with more than 60 Hz help with game play? My little brother has a high-end Acer Nitro gaming laptop and claims he gets +/- 100 FPS when playing Sims. With my current, admittedly somewhat weak, setup (Ryzen 7 - iGPU) I'm only averaging in the 19-25 FPS range.

Thanks much!

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  • @AlexvonAuen  Sims 4 does run properly on a widescreen monitor, although the Map View doesn't fill out the screen.  Here's an example:

    https://answers.ea.com/t5/Technical-Issues-PC/Sims-stuck-in-windowed-mode/m-p/12587936#M252220

    Live mode should be fine; it's just the map that doesn't fill out the screen.  And the images aren't distorted at all.

    As for your fps, the monitor does not affect the GPU's performance per se.  A lower-resolution monitor means fewer pixels, which translates into higher framerates, but it's about the resolution you're using, i.e. the number of pixels your GPU has to render.  So you could accomplish the same thing by turning down the in-game resolution on a high-res monitor as you would by getting a lower-res monitor.  Try it yourself and see the effects: run Sims 4 at 1920x1080 and compare your framerates with what you get in 4k.

    You're not going to see ~100 fps on any kind of iGPU unless you turn down the resolution and/or the other graphics settings, or you're only running the base game and maybe some game or stuff packs.  Sims 4 is too demanding these days to get that kind of performance out of an integrated graphics chip.  Ultrawide comes in a couple different standard resolutions, but either way, it's going to involve more pixels than 1080p and fewer than 4k, so in-game peformance would be somewhere in between.

  • AlexvonAuen's avatar
    AlexvonAuen
    Rising Traveler
    2 years ago

    Hi PuzzlezAddict,

    Thanks for the quick response.....from what I can see; for all the info, knowledge and assistance you provide everyone - you should be getting paid!
    Sorry for the delay but I've been off-line the past few days helping a friend move house (glad that's over!).

    Nice to know that Sims 4 will play on a 21:9 screen.
    Just so I'm clear: that means that one actually sees 'more' of the current scene (i.e., that which would normally be hidden 'off screen') and not just a larger picture?
    Am not really worried about the Map View....never spend more than a few secs. there....but seeing more of the rooms and/or scenery (in lieu of having them 'cut off') when playing would be great.

    With regard to a new screen (i.e., FPS): am still looking for either a new laptop or mini-pc with better specs (we texted earlier about Zotac - thanks again).
    Somehow it doesn't make much sense to me to splurge on a new system (e.g., w/ RTX 4070/4080 laptop GPU) capable of 100+ FPS, if my monitor is only capable of max. 60 Hz / FPS....., which is why I'm looking at monitors with 120+ Hz. Or is there not really a noticeable difference playing Sims?

    Cheers,
    Alex

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    puzzlezaddict
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    2 years ago

    @AlexvonAuen  I remember you now.  I'm not good at all with names (usernames or real ones) but can bring up an entire conversation (forums or IRL) when prompted.  And the question about mini PCs was an interesting one.

    Anyway, my experience with Sims 4 is that when changing the resolution in fullscreen mode, the game renders the same volume of space, but in windowed mode, it can render less or more depending on how you expand the window.  The problem with this test, of course, is it uses the same screen at all times, so fullscreen necessarily has the same aspect ratio or is inherently distorted.  I don't have a widescreen monitor to test with but can ask someone who does, or I can fiddle with my monitor's settings.  Still, at worst, windowed mode should give you the wide viewing angle you want.

    I personally think that 90-100 Hz is a significant upgrade from 60, if you can get fps that high.  (That wouldn't be a problem with an RTX 4070 mobile, or even a 4060 mobile.)  Going from 90 to 120 is very nice but not as much of a change.  So if you find an otherwise perfect monitor that only runs at 100 Hz, and you don't like any of the 120+ Hz models, then go with the 100 Hz option.

    I play Sims games at 144 fps, and I only notice when framerates drop below 100 or so.  That's not to say I couldn't tell the difference between 110 and 144 if I was looking, just that it doesn't distract me from the game at that point.  I wouldn't say the game feels choppy at 60 or 75 fps, and in fact if you didn't have any exposure to higher refresh rates, you'd likely be perfectly happy at the lower rate.  It's more of a small quality of life upgrade that you never knew you missed until you found it.

    I always tell people to go look at monitors in person because some are much more sensitive to changes in refresh rates than others.  Even if you can't run a game on a demo monitor, you can drag around a File Explorer window and see how it feels at different refresh rates.  The setting is simple to change on a monitor and can be accessed even with the tight restrictions that stores place on their demo systems.  Best Buy usually has a lot of monitors on display, with various specs, so if you live near one, it would be a worthwhile trip.

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    AlexvonAuen
    Rising Traveler
    2 years ago

    Hey PuzzlezAddict,

    Glad to hear that my mini-PC question was interesting. ;-)

    I normally play in "windowed" mode, as I like being able to click on files (for cheats) or the internet (cheats/questions) in the bottom bar when playing.
    I did change the screen settings from 3840x2004 down to 1600x1200....but the game now opens as a 'pop-up' box in the centre of my screen and I have to hit the 'maximise' button in the upper right corner to get full screen (..not a major problem though..). With the new settings, can't really notice any huge differences (downwards) in the image quality...but also no real improvements in motion either: Sims are still not really 'fluid' when moving.

    If you do happen to know someone who plays on a 21:9 screen, it really would be interesting to learn if one can actually see 'more' real estate (i.e., if previously 'off screen' images are visible)..or if the picture is simply larger. In the latter case I would probably just stick to a normal 16:9 format, as I don't play any games other than Sims (or possibly 'Life by You' when it appears), that would benefit from a widescreen monitor.

    At the moment a simple improvement from 19-25 FPS up to a 'mere' 60 FPS would, in itself, be rather nice, but ~100 or better would be fantastic (144 FPS would be a dream!). As I'm still looking for either a new laptop or mini-PC (the Zotac sold-out before I could get it and I definitely want a Nvidia GPU) I'll try to match a possible new screen to the PC's FPS capabilities.

    Currently have my eye on the new Asus Rog Nuc (..although not yet available) or possibly a Lenovo Legion/Legion Pro laptop (they have all the major ports in the back and...blissfully.....out of the way). At any rate, definitely something with a dedicated GPU. My current setup (Ryzen 7 - 3700U w/ Radeon RX Vega 10 iGPU) was fine...before I discovered CC. Unfortunately, it simply can't cope with 12 GB of MODs and a rather extensive, long-play game with 16+ elaborately decorated houses (almost exclusively CC furnishings) and 90+ Sims. I actually spend more time just building and giving the Sims major 'do-overs' (hair, outfits, etc.), as opposed to actually 'playing'.

    As I'm located in Europe, we don't have any Best Buys......but you're perfectly correct about looking at an actual screen in action first before buying. We do, however, have a good sized electronics chain in Austria/Germany where one can get a bit hands-on before buying...at least with the items on display: some are unfortunately available as 'online only'.

    Thanks again for all your input.
    Cheers
    Alex