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Re: Gaming laptop recommendations

Hi @puzzlezaddict 

I think I'm gonna try to buy around Black Friday/Cyber Monday (if I miss cause I'm too unwell to go online, I'll try again after Christmas). I think I'll try not to go much over £1000 (less is great, a wee bit over might be OK for a confident purchase).

I've been checking out reviews. 

The Rog flow z13 won't work for me as it won't sit on my laptop stand (I need my laptop to be on the stand so I can use it laying down or reclined at least).

The Asus zephyrus g14 seems interesting as it gets good reviews, but I'm confused between the 2021 and 2022. Price is a difference, but also the fan noise seems to be either quiet or loud depending on reviews. 

I'm concerned if it's too loud, I end up not being able to use it. 

I wonder how hard would the fans work on sims 4 (they work on my HP Pavilion x360 13-u063na, but it's around 40db at worst - or so says the app I used on my phone).

I've looked into the Rog flow x13 but it's much dearer.

The Acer swift x also seems to have conflicting reviews on fan noise. 

The MSI though seems to be loud wherever I checked. 

  • I can't find about the Dell.

As far as graphics, would you say the 3050 is good? Would it last?  I can't remember what AMD card is equivalent. 

Don't worry if it's too many questions. 

Thank you 

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    puzzlezaddict
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    3 years ago

    @scotjess  This isn't too many questions, although I'm not sure I can give you a definitive answer for all of them.

    The year listed for a laptop model generally doesn't matter.  The manufacturer may re-release a given model, or a website may fudge the details, to make the laptop look newer than it is.  What you should pay attention to is the model of processor.  That determines the chassis (along with screen size) as well as contributing to how much heat the laptop will produce.  If you find a revew that describes a laptop with exactly the processor in the one you're considering, that's data you can trust.

    However, keep in mind that you won't be maxing out the processor while playing Sims 4.  So just because the fans are loud when both the CPU and GPU are at max capacity doesn't mean you'd see the same.  What you want to look for is how the laptop performs under medium CPU load and high (but not max) GPU load, which is what Sims 4 would produce.  Some laptops are tuned to send the fans into overdrive at the first sign of high temperatures; others let the components get hotter before ramping up fan speed.  There are also tools, often provided by the laptop manufacturer itself, that might allow you to tune the fan speed or curve, so look for a more in-depth review that describes the options available to adjust the settings.

    MSI laptops do tend to run louder than others, nothing dangerous but the kind of noise that would make anyone wear headphones.  The Asys Zephyrus G14 used to be very quiet for a gaming laptop, and if that's changed, it's a shame.

    I would also take the casual YouTube reviews with a grain of salt.  Trashing a product gets more clicks, and anyone can post just about anything.  The reviews to trust are those from serious sites that run rigorous tests and post the data.  Even if you can't or don't want to sort through most of that data, you'll at least know that the conclusions are accurate to the extent of the reviewers' abilities.

    When you ask if a 3050 will last, what do you mean?  If you're asking whether it will keep up with Sims 4 and eventually run Sims 5, the answer is probably but we can't know for sure.  The developers are certainly incentivized to make Sims 5 accessible to people with lower-end computers than any of the ones you're considering, and Sims 4 wasn't even as demanding as Sims 3 for the first few years.  Beyond that, you'd probably be looking to buy a new computer again soon: a laptop can't really be expected to last longer than five years, even if many of them do.  And five or six years from now, laptops as fast as these should be much cheaper, with the equivalent gaming laptops easily being two or three times as fast.

  • scotjess's avatar
    scotjess
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    3 years ago

    @puzzlezaddict thank you for such  detailed answer. 

    I'll keep an eye on the exact CPU GPU you mentioned earlier. 

    If you have see something you think would suit my needs in the next week (sales), would you mind popping it in here. 

    I'll check gameradar out techradar. I'm not sure which are the best. 

    Thank you. 

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    scotjess
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    3 years ago

    @puzzlezaddict sorry, one more. Is 1TB overkill? The space on my laptop is going so quickly now I've got more packs. I'm planning on getting more. 

    Ta

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    3 years ago

    @scotjess  A 1 TB SSD is not overkill at all if you need the space.  However, Sims 4 won't ever fill up a 500 GB drive no matter how much custom content you use—the loading times would be unbearable long before that.  So I wouldn't ignore options with only a 500 GB SSD unless you know you need that extra space for other games.  An external hard drive can be quite cheap, and most data can be stored there without any decrease in performance retrieving it.  The exceptions are games and other programs (e.g. Photoshop, video-editing software) that need to constantly access data in real time.

    I'd also check out notebookcheck.net for reviews.  The articles can get quite technical, but they also give a more general overview, a grade per feature at the end, and (usually) a couple charts comparing the laptop's performance with similar ones.

  • scotjess's avatar
    scotjess
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    3 years ago

    Hi @puzzlezaddict 

    I want to thank you. Your leads on laptops and review site, your explanations, helped me to find what I think will be the best for me. I have several access needs that I would love to do without but can't. Your help has made a big difference.

    I'm down to 2 models. Both light enough, quiet enough, without Pulse width modulation detected. Both come with Ryzen 9 or 7. Both Nvidua 3050ti. Both usually have 1TB.

    Asus ROG Flow X13 GV301 (this one has soldered RAM only, so if I find s good price at 32gb, even better, but 16gb would be good too)

    Asus ROG Zephyrus G14 Ga401 (older than the GA402, but quieter and No PWM on any reviews)

    I'll be on the lookout for these. I hope to get a new one but I might look for second hand too. 

    Again, thank you. You saved me potential headaches (both in searching and with the wrong machine).💚

  • puzzlezaddict's avatar
    puzzlezaddict
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    3 years ago

    @scotjess  I'm glad I could help.  If you have any other questions, you know where to find me.  And good luck with your shopping; I hope you can find one or both computers at a great price.

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