I am at a lost with this one.this started way before the new Pack or any updates , I would often deal with upset sims and then the bored sims often and after a while I started checking them in CAS and would find some of their traits missing and today I found two more sims traits missing and both of them had traits added to them I didn't pick, like a loner trait which is confusing because I didn't pick that for them and I always upload my sims on the gallery and they are both married to each other and the screenshot at the bottom is their daughter and son who stay in totally different households then their parents.With the strange stuff that is happening in my game it seem like someone is causing crazy stuff to happen.My game don't have any hacks , I only have CC's in my game like hair, make-up and my own CC's I made which is just t-shirt and picture frames and that's it.Then this happen three days ago, I found this confusing because this sim I just made him and moved him onto a empty lot with no lights or even a building and had him go on vacation while he wait to be accepted into college.

Hi @LonaBoom Do you use any mods (you say no cc apart from your own) however, many 'custom traits' are now totally broken. So, just checking..Also, if nothing but a bit of cc, could you try it vanilla, without any cc. In a 'test' game, ie: 'save as' to not wreck your usual game. Redownload them from the gallery, this may strip the cc, though in the test game, shouldn't matter.

I have never installed any career hacks , no programs or game mods in my game ever. I only install make-up and hair from The Sims Resource from CC creators Natalis and Nightcrawler Sims. I make some CC's myself which is only t-shirts and CC's picture frames.I just found these two today after checking all my sims householdsAlso areas missing I checked more of my household and came across some strange aspirations icons , this is a townie household I move into a house a long time ago , I don't know if anyone ever seen these two before but I have never seen it.

@LonaBoom I would still suggest the tips I stated before, re: 'test game' as cc can and often does affect gameplay in a myriad of ways. 👍ie: "if nothing but a bit of cc, could you try it vanilla, without any cc. In a 'test' game, so: 'save as' to not wreck your usual game. Redownload them from the gallery, this may strip the cc, though in the test game, shouldn't matter."This is to find the broken cc, and remove it, thus adding it back folder by folder until the game acts up again

I don't understand , could you be more clear what your saying.

You saying to remove my CC's to see if the game act more normal, let me see if that would change anything when I remove my cc's from the game, I have a small amount of cc's

Started Before Patch , Traits Dropping and Changing On It's Own

11 Replies

Sashas0nic
Seasoned Ace
5 years ago
Hi @LonaBoom Do you use any mods (you say no cc apart from your own) however, many 'custom traits' are now totally broken. So, just checking..
Also, if nothing but a bit of cc, could you try it vanilla, without any cc. In a 'test' game, ie: 'save as' to not wreck your usual game. Redownload them from the gallery, this may strip the cc, though in the test game, shouldn't matter.
LonaBoom
Seasoned Ace
5 years ago
I have never installed any career hacks , no programs or game mods in my game ever. I only install make-up and hair from The Sims Resource from CC creators Natalis and Nightcrawler Sims. I make some CC's myself which is only t-shirts and CC's picture frames.
I just found these two today after checking all my sims households
Also areas missing
I checked more of my household and came across some strange aspirations icons , this is a townie household I move into a house a long time ago , I don't know if anyone ever seen these two before but I have never seen it.
Sashas0nic
Seasoned Ace
5 years ago
@LonaBoom I would still suggest the tips I stated before, re: 'test game' as cc can and often does affect gameplay in a myriad of ways. 👍
ie: "if nothing but a bit of cc, could you try it vanilla, without any cc. In a 'test' game, so: 'save as' to not wreck your usual game. Redownload them from the gallery, this may strip the cc, though in the test game, shouldn't matter."
This is to find the broken cc, and remove it, thus adding it back folder by folder until the game acts up again
LonaBoom
Seasoned Ace
5 years ago
I don't understand , could you be more clear what your saying.
LonaBoom
Seasoned Ace
5 years ago
You saying to remove my CC's to see if the game act more normal, let me see if that would change anything when I remove my cc's from the game, I have a small amount of cc's
Sashas0nic
Seasoned Ace
5 years ago
Hi, @LonaBoom it seems you must be new to using cc.. yes. You remove them when experiencing issues of gameplay/or CAS. It's the first thing to do in fact.
delete the localthumbcache.package file from your EA/TS4 folder, and
restart a new (test) game, with NO cc.
then find the broken cc/mod. Test the game 'each time' you add back a cc item or folder. (you can find tips here, if new to that also).
The culprit will likely be found via the culling method, using 'Test Game" will help by not 'stripping the cc off your sims'.. More tips at my post here on maintaining your game with cc and Sims 4 Update Patches including instructions on the 50/50 method.
Once you've isolated the cc causing the issue, do not keep it in your game, and find (if there is one) a replacement.
Start your game again, with the original save. Having deleted the culprit cc.
Spoiler
The following flowchart is From here: Sims Wiki also there's a good guide at Carls Sims Guide to find brocken cc/mods

Spoiler
Sadly, there is no short cut to finding broken cc (& mods) I'm afraid, it's up to the artist of particular cc & mods to keep them compatible with the game, so you need to find the culprit affecting your game. To do that, remove and cull them 50/50 to find it, there may be an updated version orit's reported as broken, so check with who made it.

Mods and CC require maintenance to keep them in your game, if the modder has not updated it after a game patch/update it may be broken (you can check via the mod tracker for reported broken, etc mods). The process of culling & removing it, to find the broken mod is the only option though, you'll find it won't be 'all of them' but a few or even just 'one'..
More tips here, if you're still experiencing issues.
Spoiler
There is a step by step here on Clearing Cache Files (you can also move it to the desktop instead of deleting if you want to be on the safe side).
Another idea for you is to to a Clean Boot of your pc.

Here's a troubleshooter. and another troubleshooter post by Crinrict
Most importantly, here's Crinricts post on system requirements, known issues and other important links & information: Follow this link and check all
There is also an ongoing thread with various game issues that can be found here
*note: this thread may be merged to the ongoing mixed issues post, if this fix doesn't help.
LonaBoom
Seasoned Ace
5 years ago
@Sashas0nic sorry my reply to you was late , I'm not new to CC's I create them myself , I'm still having little issues here and there after removing them. I didn't understand clearing what you was saying because normally make-up and hair don't cause major problems like that in the sims game. I've been downloading CC's into games I play for years starting with the sims 1 game.
LonaBoom
Seasoned Ace
5 years ago
@Sashas0nic Some of the strange behaviors are still happening in the game after removing the CC's.

A sim drinking coffee but every time get a cup of coffee she get in the tub looking stressed ( this sim having nothing to be stressed about because she don't work and she married with one child and this started happing before the new patch and pack )

Now the strange behaviors that is still happening without the CC's are upset sim that have nothing to be upset about and this would be the same sims that was missing a trait.

Another sim who seem to be younger then her own daughter which is strange I found that yesterday.

My sim doing repeated animation as the other sims in the dorm using the bathroom, they would go into the toilet stalls and come out repeatedly over and over again until I had my sim travel somewhere else to use the bathroom.

I haven't checked for traits missing but I will check today once I log on, because normally I play for a long time before checking and that is when traits start missing.
Sashas0nic
Seasoned Ace
5 years ago
Hi again, @LonaBoom Yes, am aware you make cc as you did mention that point.
However, cc is a common game-breaking issue at times, so cannot be ignored all the same.
In the spoilers above, I have outlined many steps to take including: clean boot, and other troubleshooting steps, please make sure to try those also.
If you are still experiencing issues, please post a copy of your dxdiag for someone to decipher.
how to:
dx diag once repairing your game.
There is also an ongoing 'random issues' thread, if all the above ideas, including troubleshooting tips do not work..
Hope this helps,
Sasha

I have no connection to EA, am an Avid Mods/CC user, but don't make them:
Simsonic Weebly, Incorporating the Mod Tracker.
LonaBoom
Seasoned Ace
5 years ago
@Sashas0nic Thank you for taking the time to help me and read my post and replying to them. I remember those years removing broken or corrupt cc's from my sims 2 and sims 3 game and removing them one by one just to find out the issue was one item that caused the issue and thank GOD for crinrict website pointing out what item it was I remember the long list of items I had one of them in my game that caused the issue.

Thank you again