Blast from the past. What the sims used to be.

this is so sad. alexa please start a petition to bring the sims 1 & 2 devs back to the life simulation genre. man i wish i was a billionaire i'd pay all their salaries if it meant to have an amazing sims 5 to make justice to the franchise

"Justin;c-17662352" wrote:

"Alwe1507;c-17662346" wrote:

"Justin;d-981468" wrote:
This showed up on my recommendation & gosh. Does anyone remember when the sims used to be fun, cheeky with humor & had actual gameplay depth ?


https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=t9u1zMCos8w


I remember showing this to my mom when I was 10 because I was excited for sims 2 & wanted it for my birthday. I was even surprised she was okay with it lol. This is what I miss about the sims. Sims 4 has truly been out of touch for a long time. Not only with its fan base but with what made the previous game’s fun & had true gameplay value. It was a game that all types of players can find fun in. We have more packs in the sims 4 then any other title & somehow it still feels lackluster. Where’s the fun & humor now? How did sims 4 become so childish? How did we go from the old school sims to marketing on a kids YouTube channel for Star Wars Batuu ?

Heck, look at all the little details we used to have back in the day.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=LlWEvlW9jbY

I just don’t understand how the community has accepted what the sims 4 has become. I’m afraid of what sims 5 might turn out to be. I will always love the franchise, but I don’t love it like I used to.

Ahh, The Sims 2. Memories. 2004 and still my favourite iteration. If EA released a remastered version and cleaned it up a bit from bugs and glitches, I'd bin off The Sims 4 and have at it!

Sim memories. Attraction. Chemistry. Wants and Fears. Just some of the things making Sims that bit more likeable and relatable.

Sims 2 is not as buggy (at least for me) & there’s tons of mods available to help fix those pesky issues. One of the previous comments mentioned the mod community is still strong. Memories , attraction, chemistry wants & fears should make a comeback in the sims 4. At least fears. We have all emotions but fear. I would like my sim to be afraid of the vampires that come drink from her at night

Don't get me wrong. It isn't a TS3 lag-fest or TS4 bug-fest. I just meant, generally.

It's the graphics for me. I can't bring myself to play aged games ? I like attractive games and I fall for newer games and upgraded graphics cards every time ??‍♂

"Alwe1507;c-17662369" wrote:

"Justin;c-17662352" wrote:

"Alwe1507;c-17662346" wrote:

"Justin;d-981468" wrote:
This showed up on my recommendation & gosh. Does anyone remember when the sims used to be fun, cheeky with humor & had actual gameplay depth ?


https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=t9u1zMCos8w


I remember showing this to my mom when I was 10 because I was excited for sims 2 & wanted it for my birthday. I was even surprised she was okay with it lol. This is what I miss about the sims. Sims 4 has truly been out of touch for a long time. Not only with its fan base but with what made the previous game’s fun & had true gameplay value. It was a game that all types of players can find fun in. We have more packs in the sims 4 then any other title & somehow it still feels lackluster. Where’s the fun & humor now? How did sims 4 become so childish? How did we go from the old school sims to marketing on a kids YouTube channel for Star Wars Batuu ?

Heck, look at all the little details we used to have back in the day.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=LlWEvlW9jbY

I just don’t understand how the community has accepted what the sims 4 has become. I’m afraid of what sims 5 might turn out to be. I will always love the franchise, but I don’t love it like I used to.

Ahh, The Sims 2. Memories. 2004 and still my favourite iteration. If EA released a remastered version and cleaned it up a bit from bugs and glitches, I'd bin off The Sims 4 and have at it!

Sim memories. Attraction. Chemistry. Wants and Fears. Just some of the things making Sims that bit more likeable and relatable.

Sims 2 is not as buggy (at least for me) & there’s tons of mods available to help fix those pesky issues. One of the previous comments mentioned the mod community is still strong. Memories , attraction, chemistry wants & fears should make a comeback in the sims 4. At least fears. We have all emotions but fear. I would like my sim to be afraid of the vampires that come drink from her at night

Don't get me wrong. It isn't a TS3 lag-fest or TS4 bug-fest. I just meant, generally.

It's the graphics for me. I can't bring myself to play aged games ? I like attractive games and I fall for newer games and upgraded graphics cards every time ??‍♂

Don’t worry you’re not the only one lol. That’s where they get us ;) but like I’ve said before, sims 4 is more about the aesthetic appeal. For example , I prefer sims 4 mermaids over sims 3 for the fact that they are much prettier & I love their tale movement animations. But I like sims 3 mermaids simply because they have all body of waters to swim & their own underwater world.

"Alwe1507;c-17662369" wrote:

"Justin;c-17662352" wrote:

"Alwe1507;c-17662346" wrote:

"Justin;d-981468" wrote:
This showed up on my recommendation & gosh. Does anyone remember when the sims used to be fun, cheeky with humor & had actual gameplay depth ?


https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=t9u1zMCos8w


I remember showing this to my mom when I was 10 because I was excited for sims 2 & wanted it for my birthday. I was even surprised she was okay with it lol. This is what I miss about the sims. Sims 4 has truly been out of touch for a long time. Not only with its fan base but with what made the previous game’s fun & had true gameplay value. It was a game that all types of players can find fun in. We have more packs in the sims 4 then any other title & somehow it still feels lackluster. Where’s the fun & humor now? How did sims 4 become so childish? How did we go from the old school sims to marketing on a kids YouTube channel for Star Wars Batuu ?

Heck, look at all the little details we used to have back in the day.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=LlWEvlW9jbY

I just don’t understand how the community has accepted what the sims 4 has become. I’m afraid of what sims 5 might turn out to be. I will always love the franchise, but I don’t love it like I used to.

Ahh, The Sims 2. Memories. 2004 and still my favourite iteration. If EA released a remastered version and cleaned it up a bit from bugs and glitches, I'd bin off The Sims 4 and have at it!

Sim memories. Attraction. Chemistry. Wants and Fears. Just some of the things making Sims that bit more likeable and relatable.

Sims 2 is not as buggy (at least for me) & there’s tons of mods available to help fix those pesky issues. One of the previous comments mentioned the mod community is still strong. Memories , attraction, chemistry wants & fears should make a comeback in the sims 4. At least fears. We have all emotions but fear. I would like my sim to be afraid of the vampires that come drink from her at night

Don't get me wrong. It isn't a TS3 lag-fest or TS4 bug-fest. I just meant, generally.

It's the graphics for me. I can't bring myself to play aged games ? I like attractive games and I fall for newer games and upgraded graphics cards every time ??‍♂

devs know this. every company knows this. it's easier to trick the eyes than put actual effort on the product. what's paid is paid. and the sims 4 at least brings 10 minutes of fun gameplay until you realize what you paid for

"bellagoth_;c-17662383" wrote:

"Alwe1507;c-17662369" wrote:

"Justin;c-17662352" wrote:

"Alwe1507;c-17662346" wrote:

"Justin;d-981468" wrote:
This showed up on my recommendation & gosh. Does anyone remember when the sims used to be fun, cheeky with humor & had actual gameplay depth ?


https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=t9u1zMCos8w


I remember showing this to my mom when I was 10 because I was excited for sims 2 & wanted it for my birthday. I was even surprised she was okay with it lol. This is what I miss about the sims. Sims 4 has truly been out of touch for a long time. Not only with its fan base but with what made the previous game’s fun & had true gameplay value. It was a game that all types of players can find fun in. We have more packs in the sims 4 then any other title & somehow it still feels lackluster. Where’s the fun & humor now? How did sims 4 become so childish? How did we go from the old school sims to marketing on a kids YouTube channel for Star Wars Batuu ?

Heck, look at all the little details we used to have back in the day.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=LlWEvlW9jbY

I just don’t understand how the community has accepted what the sims 4 has become. I’m afraid of what sims 5 might turn out to be. I will always love the franchise, but I don’t love it like I used to.

Ahh, The Sims 2. Memories. 2004 and still my favourite iteration. If EA released a remastered version and cleaned it up a bit from bugs and glitches, I'd bin off The Sims 4 and have at it!

Sim memories. Attraction. Chemistry. Wants and Fears. Just some of the things making Sims that bit more likeable and relatable.

Sims 2 is not as buggy (at least for me) & there’s tons of mods available to help fix those pesky issues. One of the previous comments mentioned the mod community is still strong. Memories , attraction, chemistry wants & fears should make a comeback in the sims 4. At least fears. We have all emotions but fear. I would like my sim to be afraid of the vampires that come drink from her at night

Don't get me wrong. It isn't a TS3 lag-fest or TS4 bug-fest. I just meant, generally.

It's the graphics for me. I can't bring myself to play aged games ? I like attractive games and I fall for newer games and upgraded graphics cards every time ??‍♂

devs know this. every company knows this. it's easier to trick the eyes than put actual effort on the product. what's paid is paid. and the sims 4 at least brings 10 minutes of fun gameplay until you realize what you paid for

Exactly this ^^^

A perfect example of this is the Star Wars Batuu pack. There’s no denying how beautiful the world looks but everything is dressing & once you dive into it the gameplay value wears off. Again, it’s subjective to the person but it’s very limited to what the sims is about & how simmers choose to play. “Play how you want, create your own story”? Not really possible with this pack. Like this quote from this review “ After only a few hours of the repetitive, mission-based gameplay, the novelty of a Star-Wars-themed Sims 4 Pack quickly wears off. Journey to Batuu focuses so much on the missions that it neglects the very nature of the game and the reason it has such a dedicated fanbase: the sandbox element”.

https://screenrant.com/sims-4-journey-batuu-game-review/

I miss Heartshape Beds, Spiral Stairs, Boathouses, Motorcycles, Cars, Color Wheels, Color Slides, Nails, Claws, Body Hair,
All-in-one Bathrooms, All-in-one Kitchen,
Time Travel, Potter's Wheel, Bed Cuddling, Wedding Veil & Bouquet, Romantic Sleepwears, Fairies, Genies, Werewolves, Moonlight Falls & Bridgeport from Sims 3.
I so wished they would all be in Sims 4.

"Justin;c-17662397" wrote:

"bellagoth_;c-17662383" wrote:

"Alwe1507;c-17662369" wrote:

"Justin;c-17662352" wrote:

"Alwe1507;c-17662346" wrote:

"Justin;d-981468" wrote:
This showed up on my recommendation & gosh. Does anyone remember when the sims used to be fun, cheeky with humor & had actual gameplay depth ?


https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=t9u1zMCos8w


I remember showing this to my mom when I was 10 because I was excited for sims 2 & wanted it for my birthday. I was even surprised she was okay with it lol. This is what I miss about the sims. Sims 4 has truly been out of touch for a long time. Not only with its fan base but with what made the previous game’s fun & had true gameplay value. It was a game that all types of players can find fun in. We have more packs in the sims 4 then any other title & somehow it still feels lackluster. Where’s the fun & humor now? How did sims 4 become so childish? How did we go from the old school sims to marketing on a kids YouTube channel for Star Wars Batuu ?

Heck, look at all the little details we used to have back in the day.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=LlWEvlW9jbY

I just don’t understand how the community has accepted what the sims 4 has become. I’m afraid of what sims 5 might turn out to be. I will always love the franchise, but I don’t love it like I used to.

Ahh, The Sims 2. Memories. 2004 and still my favourite iteration. If EA released a remastered version and cleaned it up a bit from bugs and glitches, I'd bin off The Sims 4 and have at it!

Sim memories. Attraction. Chemistry. Wants and Fears. Just some of the things making Sims that bit more likeable and relatable.

Sims 2 is not as buggy (at least for me) & there’s tons of mods available to help fix those pesky issues. One of the previous comments mentioned the mod community is still strong. Memories , attraction, chemistry wants & fears should make a comeback in the sims 4. At least fears. We have all emotions but fear. I would like my sim to be afraid of the vampires that come drink from her at night

Don't get me wrong. It isn't a TS3 lag-fest or TS4 bug-fest. I just meant, generally.

It's the graphics for me. I can't bring myself to play aged games ? I like attractive games and I fall for newer games and upgraded graphics cards every time ??‍♂

devs know this. every company knows this. it's easier to trick the eyes than put actual effort on the product. what's paid is paid. and the sims 4 at least brings 10 minutes of fun gameplay until you realize what you paid for

Exactly this ^^^

A perfect example of this is the Star Wars Batuu pack. There’s no denying how beautiful the world looks but everything is dressing & once you dive into it the gameplay value wears off. Again, it’s subjective to the person but it’s very limited to what the sims is about & how simmers choose to play. “Play how you want, create your own story”? Not really possible with this pack. Like this quote from this review “ After only a few hours of the repetitive, mission-based gameplay, the novelty of a Star-Wars-themed Sims 4 Pack quickly wears off. Journey to Batuu focuses so much on the missions that it neglects the very nature of the game and the reason it has such a dedicated fanbase: the sandbox element”.

https://screenrant.com/sims-4-journey-batuu-game-review/

true. i'm so upset to see how this devs are getting so far from the main idea of the sims, which is basically a dollhouse where you can control everything and where the tools you are given have so many possibilities that you can do anything. but ts4? it's all the time reminding us how we are playing the way devs wants us to play, giving us limited tools where replayability potential is missing. they got no business putting rpg elements in a sandbox game especially when it's so poorly done. sims medieval is a great example on this issue. the game was basically missions you had to follow in order to accomplish a level. however although the game was fun for a while it lacked (apart of customization) replayability. all the missions, although with a different purpose, ended up being the same.
ts4 devs need to realize that they're not knowing how to add mission based games in the game. and they should stop, the engine is already flawed in the AI department. i don't understand what's the necessity they have to innovate a product that already has a good formula, but even if they want to, they should know they can't. if they dislike the life simulation genre then there's plenty of games and plenty of companies out there that will gladly accept them. if ya gonna work in such an important place at least show respect for what you're doing and for who you're doing it

"SERVERFRA;c-17662409" wrote:
I miss Heartshape Beds, Spiral Stairs, Boathouses, Motorcycles, Cars, Color Wheels, Color Slides, Nails, Claws, Body Hair,
All-in-one Bathrooms, All-in-one Kitchen,
Time Travel, Potter's Wheel, Bed Cuddling, Wedding Veil & Bouquet, Romantic Sleepwears, Fairies, Genies, Werewolves, Moonlight Falls & Bridgeport from Sims 3.
I so wished they would all be in Sims 4.

I sure hope the missing occult’s make a return. Eco living would of been a perfect opportunity to revamp plantsims & those were one of my favorites because of how helpful they were with gardening. All-in-one kitchen would of also been great for tiny living. So many details that I hope make a return in sims 4 or sims 5. Only time will tell. Body hair! It’s one thing that should of been part of the base game. Heck I would love to see my mermaid grow hair on her legs & have her shave them like we would do inrl. “What’s this? Hair ? I didn’t know humans had this on their legs lol”

Wow, it was great to see all those TS2 trailers...definitely brings back great memories!

I've always felt that TS4 was too easy & too "happy". Nothing bad ever happens (or it's rare) & there's no real challenge to it. The traits don't really do much or add to our Sims 'personality', whims aren't really things our Sims want to do...the same walk dog whim pops up even though your Sim doesn't own a pet, & the emotions, which is what the big selling point of this game was initially, fall completely flat. How easy your Sim can swing from Inspired to Focused just by looking at a paining or an object. How easy they can have a fight with a Sim and be angry & 2 seconds later, give that same Sim they just fought, a hug. & cheating/jealousy....a Sim cheats & boom, all is perfectly happy again.

I think the developers have a huge challenge on their hands to make the next iteration even better. Going from TS1 to TS2, I feel like, there really wasn't much to compare to. TS1 for me was about staying alive lol, whereas TS2 just brought a ton of game play. So yeah, TS2 was definitely an amazing game. Sims emotions felt real to me...if they were angry at a Sim, good luck trying to make amends...if your Sim's spouse cheated, good luck salvaging that relationship lol. It was a challenge....you had to put in work...you couldn't just walk up to a SIm and be friends or romance someone like you can in TS4. & bad things happened....the unexpected events....you never knew when they would occur which is what made TS2 fun. There were consequences. & then the detail....and the depth...I can go on all day about how TS2 had depth....it was the little things....for example, kids dancing on their parents feet, teens sneaking out and getting busted, surprise engagement, slow dancing, etc.

But as you get more iterations, I think it gets more challenging as there's so much to compare to....& keep a balance of what carries over and what is taken out. When TS3 came along....a lot from TS2 didn't carry over. But IMO, I felt at the time, the benefits of what we got outweighed what didn't carry over. So what was "missing" never felt truly lacking for me.

& when TS4 came along...oh boy...so much stuff now, 3 previous versions of content to compare to. I can only speak for myself....but I had an expectation....if I had babies in TS2 & TS3 that were 'free' & to get them as objects in TS4, felt like a step backward. To see the babies jump from the crib to child age....completely missing a whole age group (toddlers) felt cheesy to me. The whole game just felt like a step backwards from what we originally had, and though I expected things not to carry over, there was just way too much that didn't carry over....& what we got...."better emotions, Sims with personality"....i mean did we really get that?

So it's not that TS4 is a bad game....if I never played TS1-TS3, I'd probably love TS4. The Sims look great. Graphics are amazing. But it's just very hard for me to understand why we could have so much gameplay in an old game from 2004.....and it's 2020 & the game still falls flat. If not for mods....I wouldn't be able to play.

"Sha2520032003;c-17662426" wrote:
Wow, it was great to see all those TS2 trailers...definitely brings back great memories!

I've always felt that TS4 was too easy & too "happy". Nothing bad ever happens (or it's rare) & there's no real challenge to it. The traits don't really do much or add to our Sims 'personality', whims aren't really things our Sims want to do...the same walk dog whim pops up even though your Sim doesn't own a pet, & the emotions, which is what the big selling point of this game was initially, fall completely flat. How easy your Sim can swing from Inspired to Focused just by looking at a paining or an object. How easy they can have a fight with a Sim and be angry & 2 seconds later, give that same Sim they just fought, a hug. & cheating/jealousy....a Sim cheats & boom, all is perfectly happy again.

I think the developers have a huge challenge on their hands to make the next iteration even better. Going from TS1 to TS2, I feel like, there really wasn't much to compare to. TS1 for me was about staying alive lol, whereas TS2 just brought a ton of game play. So yeah, TS2 was definitely an amazing game. Sims emotions felt real to me...if they were angry at a Sim, good luck trying to make amends...if your Sim's spouse cheated, good luck salvaging that relationship lol. It was a challenge....you had to put in work...you couldn't just walk up to a SIm and be friends or romance someone like you can in TS4. & bad things happened....the unexpected events....you never knew when they would occur which is what made TS2 fun. There were consequences. & then the detail....and the depth...I can go on all day about how TS2 had depth....it was the little things....for example, kids dancing on their parents feet, teens sneaking out and getting busted, surprise engagement, slow dancing, etc.

But as you get more iterations, I think it gets more challenging as there's so much to compare to....& keep a balance of what carries over and what is taken out. When TS3 came along....a lot from TS2 didn't carry over. But IMO, I felt at the time, the benefits of what we got outweighed what didn't carry over. So what was "missing" never felt truly lacking for me.

& when TS4 came along...oh boy...so much stuff now, 3 previous versions of content to compare to. I can only speak for myself....but I had an expectation....if I had babies in TS2 & TS3 that were 'free' & to get them as objects in TS4, felt like a step backward. To see the babies jump from the crib to child age....completely missing a whole age group (toddlers) felt cheesy to me. The whole game just felt like a step backwards from what we originally had, and though I expected things not to carry over, there was just way too much that didn't carry over....& what we got...."better emotions, Sims with personality"....i mean did we really get that?

So it's not that TS4 is a bad game....if I never played TS1-TS3, I'd probably love TS4. The Sims look great. Graphics are amazing. But it's just very hard for me to understand why we could have so much gameplay in an old game from 2004.....and it's 2020 & the game still falls flat. If not for mods....I wouldn't be able to play.

So true, I think a lot of us have been playing the sims series for years, know what's missing in The Sims 4. But if it's a new player playing The Sims 4 but never played the older games, it's going to be an awesome game for them.

Personally I still have hope there is going to be a better game than The Sims 2 in the future (TS2 imo is my favourite) but I do not believe it's going to be from EA unfortunately.

TS2 & TS3 has much beefy gameplay in their lifespan that ended less than 6 years. TS4, over six years is still a lackluster.