Life by You vs. Sims 5 (Rene)? Rod Humble and Paradox's Life Simulation Game

https://twitter.com/lifebyyou_pdx/status/1647985858564313089?s=20

LBY will not have any character voices. Just SFX. Sound effects.

Could not post link. NSFW.

"simgirl1010;c-18257807" wrote:

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https://twitter.com/marcelovanaard/status/1647989633198837761?s=20

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https://twitter.com/lifebyyou_pdx/status/1648006477276405761?s=20

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https://twitter.com/SkinnierSteve/status/1647989801403006976?s=20

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https://twitter.com/LifeByGabe/status/1648013661628428288?s=20

So like Animal Crossing sounds. I'm okay with that.

I'm fine with Rene not having this conversation feature. Instead, I want a return to the interests-based conversation being shown in chat bubble icons. I want different sims to not get along. I always felt that Sims 4 it's such a sandbox that you can be best friends and marry any single Sim. There is no conflict or tension, which made the game of little interest to me.

There's a lot of potential to further expand the interest system. I really like how every sim was born with random interests...it meant as a wants-based player, I could use the interests as a way to guide their career path, skills, and other life choices.

I feel like Paradox is a shady company so I don't have any faith in them to make a sims like game. They really don't care about their customers they don't make an effort to communicate with their customers. Regardless I still love their games but Life By You I really don't have the faith they will follow through and make a game everyone would want to play. They could also just abandon it like some other games their company publishes. Like Empire Of Sin for example.

A new short video on using direct control

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=fTs_kb6isQY&feature=youtu.be

"simgirl1010;c-18257816" wrote:
LBY will not have any character voices. Just SFX. Sound effects.

Could not post link. NSFW.

I'm still interested in LBY but my initial excitement is dying down. It's like little bits of that excitement are being slowly chipped away. First the revelation about Rod Humble's dislike for occults and supernatural gameplay. The questions about how much of the goofy charm of The Sims is going to be included, and now learning that the characters won't have voices. I need to replace this computer because of a poor choice when I spec'd it regardless of what LBY needs, but those huge minimum specs could have been a factor otherwise.

There hasn't been anything yet that has been a total turn off or a hard no, but I'm glad as a Mac gamer I wasn't granted early access. I would be feeling a lot more apprehensive if I had actually put money down on it. It may still be the best life sim yet, so it will be interesting to see what they have to share in the coming months.

It's clear to me Rod Humble is building a 'Sims RPG'. Ok, I never liked that sort of basic play in The Sims series. However, after 20 odd years I'm ready for a new gaming experience. I bought into the hoopla of TS4 and became disappointed not long after. But I did give it a 3 years' chance before I threw in the towel for good. I gave TS3 a few years off and on back and forth before I decided the best game ever was TS2. But after 20 odd years of playing TS2, I'm ready to let another company wow me. It won't be the first time I wasted money on a game, nor wasn't impressed as I thought I would be. I'm going in with my eyes wide open. This game by Humble will have a lot of RPG-ness (if that's a word) in it. But I have played them before but prefer life simulators like The Sims. I'm not disappointed at anything I see so far, Including the conversation maker thingy. Or no real voice overs. I'm expecting it to be similar but very different. And that's ok. I wasn't expecting that to be the story with TS4 since they said it was the smartest Sims, the most emotional, the most controlled options by players ever type of game....well it wasn't. None of that was true. So, I'm not apprehensive at all about preordering this game. I know what we are getting and it's not the same ole tagline...smartest Sims ever, You Rule, best game ever tagline.
I'll play early access and go from there. After 20+ I feel Maxis has ran out of ideas and can't offer anything but clutter from the Art Dept. (And unfortunately, I feel what they do 'remake' they don't do as well as twenty years ago.)

"Cinebar;c-18259365" wrote:
It's clear to me Rod Humble is building a 'Sims RPG'. Ok, I never liked that sort of basic play in The Sims series. However, after 20 odd years I'm ready for a new gaming experience. I bought into the hoopla of TS4 and became disappointed not long after. But I did give it a 3 years' chance before I threw in the towel for good. I gave TS3 a few years off and on back and forth before I decided the best game ever was TS2. But after 20 odd years of playing TS2, I'm ready to let another company wow me. It won't be the first time I wasted money on a game, nor wasn't impressed as I thought I would be. I'm going in with my eyes wide open. This game by Humble will have a lot of RPG-ness (if that's a word) in it. But I have played them before but prefer life simulators like The Sims. I'm not disappointed at anything I see so far, Including the conversation maker thingy. Or no real voice overs. I'm expecting it to be similar but very different. And that's ok. I wasn't expecting that to be the story with TS4 since they said it was the smartest Sims, the most emotional, the most controlled options by players ever type of game....well it wasn't. None of that was true. So, I'm not apprehensive at all about preordering this game. I know what we are getting and it's not the same ole tagline...smartest Sims ever, You Rule, best game ever tagline.
I'll play early access and go from there. After 20+ I feel Maxis has ran out of ideas and can't offer anything but clutter from the Art Dept. (And unfortunately, I feel what they do 'remake' they don't do as well as twenty years ago.)

For me, Sims 3 had a LOT of RPG elements. I mean, the entirety of the World Adventures EP, the depth of collectibles and crafting, the ambitions careers, just to name a few. I really enjoyed them.

The Sims 4 incorporation of these elements were always very shallow. So I welcome more of them in Rene and LBY.

I will stress that the games CAN'T rely on RPG elements. Strong AI, interpersonal relationships, the aspiration meter, Wants & Fears, two-sided dynamics, relationship types, memories, and more from TS2 base game are fan-favorites.

"DaniRose2143;c-18259341" wrote:

"simgirl1010;c-18257816" wrote:
LBY will not have any character voices. Just SFX. Sound effects.

Could not post link. NSFW.

I'm still interested in LBY but my initial excitement is dying down. It's like little bits of that excitement are being slowly chipped away. First the revelation about Rod Humble's dislike for occults and supernatural gameplay. The questions about how much of the goofy charm of The Sims is going to be included, and now learning that the characters won't have voices. I need to replace this computer because of a poor choice when I spec'd it regardless of what LBY needs, but those huge minimum specs could have been a factor otherwise.

There hasn't been anything yet that has been a total turn off or a hard no, but I'm glad as a Mac gamer I wasn't granted early access. I would be feeling a lot more apprehensive if I had actually put money down on it. It may still be the best life sim yet, so it will be interesting to see what they have to share in the coming months.

Yeah, I think it's going to be lacking in the humor and charm department, plus I believe the character models are not going to be as good looking as The Sims 4 and whatever Project Rene's sims will look like. I am even warming to Paralives characters. I can't tell if I like LBY characters from what I've seen so far. They look odd, especially their bodies. I need to make my own with their modeler before I know, but I hope what they have now is from a temporary modeler and not the actual one.

However, I am looking for them to create a world that is much more interesting to play in as well as character interactions that are enjoyable, fascinating, and surprising to watch. Also a game that you can tailor to the way you like to play. If they don't deliver that, I don't think it will be a successful as it could be.

"simmerorigin;c-18259406" wrote:

"Cinebar;c-18259365" wrote:
It's clear to me Rod Humble is building a 'Sims RPG'. Ok, I never liked that sort of basic play in The Sims series. However, after 20 odd years I'm ready for a new gaming experience. I bought into the hoopla of TS4 and became disappointed not long after. But I did give it a 3 years' chance before I threw in the towel for good. I gave TS3 a few years off and on back and forth before I decided the best game ever was TS2. But after 20 odd years of playing TS2, I'm ready to let another company wow me. It won't be the first time I wasted money on a game, nor wasn't impressed as I thought I would be. I'm going in with my eyes wide open. This game by Humble will have a lot of RPG-ness (if that's a word) in it. But I have played them before but prefer life simulators like The Sims. I'm not disappointed at anything I see so far, Including the conversation maker thingy. Or no real voice overs. I'm expecting it to be similar but very different. And that's ok. I wasn't expecting that to be the story with TS4 since they said it was the smartest Sims, the most emotional, the most controlled options by players ever type of game....well it wasn't. None of that was true. So, I'm not apprehensive at all about preordering this game. I know what we are getting and it's not the same ole tagline...smartest Sims ever, You Rule, best game ever tagline.
I'll play early access and go from there. After 20+ I feel Maxis has ran out of ideas and can't offer anything but clutter from the Art Dept. (And unfortunately, I feel what they do 'remake' they don't do as well as twenty years ago.)

For me, Sims 3 had a LOT of RPG elements. I mean, the entirety of the World Adventures EP, the depth of collectibles and crafting, the ambitions careers, just to name a few. I really enjoyed them.

The Sims 4 incorporation of these elements were always very shallow. So I welcome more of them in Rene and LBY.

I will stress that the games CAN'T rely on RPG elements. Strong AI, interpersonal relationships, the aspiration meter, Wants & Fears, two-sided dynamics, relationship types, memories, and more from TS2 base game are fan-favorites.

Because WA and Ambitions were very RPG is why I didn't buy them. I eventually (after years) purchased Ambitions and some of hands on careers were fun like fire fighter and the ghost hunter one. However, the interior designer one was very strict interactions. We couldn't even interact with the Sim wanting a change to their home. And it was very linear...do this, do this, do that sort of gameplay. That was all Rod Humble's influence, and vision of what Sims should do...play like a very linear RPG. It's why I left TS3 not long after WA. I was very disappointed to see the direction he took the series. Yes, I complained a lot. But eventually went back with Late Night and others.

Even though I totally disagreed with the spin on TS3 so far removed from Wright's original visions that it's ironic I would preorder a game produced by Humble again...but as I say, to me Maxis has taken The Sims into the avatar land of play self and basically dress up Barbie. It's a huge turn off to me the direction TS4 went not long after some of the developers were moved and or went on to other jobs and or let go.

I remember one of the announcements when a developer (no longer working for Sims) stated don't worry if you love RPG gameplay there's plenty in TS4....I could only grumble what about TS2 didn't they remember that made it so loveable. It wasn't linear, strict, level up gameplay.

So, yeah, It's very ironic I would pay for preorder knowing I never like any of that sort of thing in TS3 or TS4. Maybe it's because I'm jaded about the whole TS series.

Edit to add: And the XP on the screen in LBY reminds me of the XP Maxis was developing for TS4 before it was changed to a single player, offline game and no longer a multiplayer. So, yeah...that sort of irks me, too. lol

P.S. I figure the best way to tell Rod what a player expects as it is developed is go to preorder and get on that Discord site and tell him straight out before they add more RPG-ness. :p