Para-lives Or Sims 5?

It's still early for both titles. I feel like @rjssim, the look of the Paralives characters is a bit of a turn off at the moment. That's the first big test for me with a game like this. There's much more to it, but the look of the characters can pull me in or push me away quickly. If the look of the characters isn't good the gameplay has to be really really good to get me over that hump. I haven't seen enough gameplay yet to totally make up my mind, but if I had to choose one way or the other right now, I'd say no to Paralives. I'm still open to the idea of buying it, but they have work to do to get me fully on board.

I can't wait to see the TS5 sims, and I hope they're not a radical change from the TS4 sims. I really love the look of the current sims and feel like they just need a few updates to be perfect, looks wise. Sliders to adjust each individuals height and hair physics to make it move as they move are the two changes I most want to see. The AI is a whole other story. Throw it out and start over.

Unfortunately, Paralives aren't even on the market. So, it's Disney Dreamlight Valley for me. ;)

If my sims3 dlcs and packs are taken from me, as is currently the case with the EA app, I might turn my back on the whole shebang and find a new hobby entirely. Once burned twice shy, and it's no small potatoes to me to spend that much on a game, only to have that sum "disappeared' on me.

Am reserving judgment in hopes they will not do sims3 players dirty much longer.

Assuming they fix the issue, I'll be glad to explore sims5 unless it is only for an ongoing subscription fee. Already figured out that endlessly renting things we want to keep, is a bad enough bargain that it would motivate me to find something else to want, instead.

As for Paralivss, I follow the Discord channel loosely, and intend to keep listening to what people are saying, once it ever debuts, but I won't be an early adopter. My impression of paralives so far is that it seems mostly focused on being a building and cas sandbox and I want gameplay depth and surprises more like sims2 and 3.

I don't really understand how one can form an opinion since we've seen so little of either, especially Sims 5. Even Paralives is still very early in development, although what they've shown definitely looks nice.

Ultimately it will probably come down to personal preference in terms of aesthetics or gameplay, but I also wouldn't be surprised if a lot of people who enjoy life sims ended up playing both.

> @simmerorigin said:
> What would you need to see for these devs to convince you they are making an actual game?

I don't think the question is whether it is being worked on. It clearly is, but sadly that doesn't mean it won't become vaporware. It is a very ambitious project from a new indie company that has not released a product before. While I'd love to see it come to fruition, many many many many games in that scenario never end up making it to release for a variety of reasons. I hope that isn't the case, but as someone familiar with the industry I don't think the person you're responding to being cynical is unwarranted.

@Tziva you have more perspective than I have.
I don't know anything about the game industry in particular, but what I am familiar with @simmerorigin is the experience of being on a new team, or in a new organization, trying to put together a complicated project for the first time. It's really hard. And if fundraising is part of the picture then there's inherent pressure to try to make things look nice and put-together for the sake of continuing to attract fundraising money, even if you're scrambling behind the scenes.

Paralives is probably going to end up similar to how Wasteland 2 and Phoenix Point ended up. Those were games that promised a return to the old turn-based action style from games like XCOM and Fallout and ended up delivering it but not with the same budget as those games.

They instead delivered a smaller and different experience and also inspired other game developers to look into the genre of turn-based action games.

Paralives is probably going to end up the same way and deliver something different compared to the Sims and I also hope that it will inspire other game developers to look into making life simulators.

I've been a patron for almost 3 years. I read their updates every Friday. I can say with each week that passes, my confidence grows.

I fear that Sims 5 will more or less crush Paralives if they get thir version out first

Is it true that Sims 5 is stealing from Paralives?

What was shown in the summit is too early to tell. They do have similar features but the UI will be different. There are some things that Paralives will do better and Sims 5 will be better in. Honestly, I look forward to playing both games. Just remember if you are basing it off of how it looks Project Rene will change over the next few years. Again what was shown is still super early and what I saw looked more like placeholder items for testing the new features. I look for it to have better graphic quality than Paralives because it is a title game.