Adult fans of The Sims. Should they be catered for? One of my concerns with TS4 is that it is aimed at the younger crowds which is all very well but that age group will grow up at times and adding to the ever growing adult fans. I am not saying that the game as to be all mature but it should be taken into account that there are a lot of adult players. Considering that the game is 20 years old this year there is now people still playing the game who have aged 20 years. These players are more likely to only the older games rather than the brash humour of TS4 but they are a valuable market. I would like the next Sims game to take AFOTS into account and not just focus on the preteens who might only get bored of the game after a year or two. Creative features are defiantly requested by mature players. Silly walk styles and potty humour are not. We are players with money and EA will do well if they started to cater more for the AFOTS. :smile: Discuss...

Well, the wide range of players is both a sales blessing and a challenge. I think that making the game more narrow oriented (Adult or child oriented) could be a mistake.But I belive that the Sims could take advantage of multi-pack nature to cater both. With something like flavor packs, like an adult flavor pack with adult patches. So there could be two flavor versions of the game.

Hello Simmers! May I ask AFOTS means? please explain, thanks?

"Patrice;c-17400783" wrote:Hello Simmers! May I ask AFOTS means? please explain, thanks?Adult fans of The Sims. I didn't know either, but it's mentioned in the original post. so I think it is what it means :)

That depends on what "catering to adult fans" means. If it means more focus on family play rather than just YA Sims, sure, but I don't want to see The Sims add raunchier content than what was present in TS2 or TS3.

"@Alexciel;c-17400767" wrote:Well, the wide range of players is both a sales blessing and a challenge. I think that making the game more narrow oriented (Adult or child oriented) could be a mistake.But I belive that the Sims could take advantage of multi-pack nature to cater both. With something like flavor packs, like an adult flavor pack with adult patches. So there could be two flavor versions of the game.Good suggestion :smile: "@Patrice;c-17400783" wrote:Hello Simmers! May I ask AFOTS means? please explain, thanks?Adult fans of The Sims :smile: "@TamakiSakura84;c-17400866" wrote:That depends on what "catering to adult fans" means. If it means more focus on family play rather than just YA Sims, sure, but I don't want to see The Sims add raunchier content than what was present in TS2 or TS3.The most ranchy game that we ever had was TS1 if you have ever seen this:https://static0.thegamerimages.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2020/01/Sims-1-Cake-Dancers.jpeg?q=50&fit=crop&w=740&h=370

Should The Sims start catering more for the AFOTS?

Cinebar
5 years ago
As far as pc culture, I think I'm offended the Sims in this game thinks woohoo is not the deep, loving relationship you take with the person you love but just a chance to high five....as if it's just a day at the ballgame. Sometimes their priorities seem all messed up. It's ok to woohoo many different partners, multiple, (TS4) with no consequences (like in TS2 or even The Sims Medieval) but not ok to show a cut scene of the first woohoo. Some days they confuse me of what message they do try to send. Even TS2 Sims felt bad (memories) and some guilt for cheating. lol
chikadee123
5 years ago
One thing to consider: Adult fans of The Sims (without children?) are not the only ones with incomes. All younger fans have parents/grandparents who also have incomes. Would all these parents and grandparents buy Sims games for their kids/grandkids if they are rated "Mature (whatever that entails)" instead of "Teens"?
Cinebar
5 years ago
"ButteredToast;c-17407779" wrote:
One thing to consider: Adult fans of The Sims (without children?) are not the only ones with incomes. All younger fans have parents/grandparents who also have incomes. Would all these parents and grandparents buy Sims games for their kids/grandkids if they are rated "Mature (whatever that entails)" instead of "Teens"?

I don't think the OP is trying to request Mature, but at least return to the roots of The Sims back in TS1. How is it bad to show a girl jumping out of a cake (in TS1) but good for a couple (maybe even strangers) high five each other when they decide to woohoo. Seems a bit more childish this time around. Like nine year old boys hiding and giggling, type humor.

Differences here to me are the fact I think TS4 caters in low brow humor where the others had more of a sophistication of some of it's humor, not all, but enough to appeal to those who aren't fans of low brow humor/ laughing at farts, talking toilet etc.
king_of_simcity
5 years ago
"@Cinebar;c-17407781" wrote:
"ButteredToast;c-17407779" wrote:
One thing to consider: Adult fans of The Sims (without children?) are not the only ones with incomes. All younger fans have parents/grandparents who also have incomes. Would all these parents and grandparents buy Sims games for their kids/grandkids if they are rated "Mature (whatever that entails)" instead of "Teens"?

I don't think the OP is trying to request Mature, but at least return to the roots of The Sims back in TS1. How is it bad to show a girl jumping out of a cake (in TS1) but good for a couple (maybe even strangers) high five each other when they decide to woohoo. Seems a bit more childish this time around. Like nine year old boys hiding and giggling, type humor.

Differences here to me are the fact I think TS4 caters in low brow humor where the others had more of a sophistication of some of it's humor, not all, but enough to appeal to those who aren't fans of low brow humor/ laughing at farts, talking toilet etc.

Remember that when you woke a Sim up in TS1 they would always get angry? Both adults and kids? It was lighthearted humour but one of those things which made the game funny.

I saw someone mention this years ago and they said that Will Wright put a lot of his humour into the game which you can clearly see in TS1 but not as much since.

Seedy things like a burglar in the old stereotypical black and white stripes was part of that humour while the Grim Reaper turning up a Sim died did not get introduced until the first EP it carried that type of humour forward. Of course The Sims had ghosts as well
astridentanja
5 years ago
"ButteredToast;c-17407779" wrote:
One thing to consider: Adult fans of The Sims (without children?) are not the only ones with incomes. All younger fans have parents/grandparents who also have incomes. Would all these parents and grandparents buy Sims games for their kids/grandkids if they are rated "Mature (whatever that entails)" instead of "Teens"?

It's kind of sad people can only think of one thing apparently when they hear mature. So absolutely not what the OP or anyone here means.
therealtacomama
New Spectator
5 years ago
"JoAnne65;c-17408058" wrote:
"ButteredToast;c-17407779" wrote:
One thing to consider: Adult fans of The Sims (without children?) are not the only ones with incomes. All younger fans have parents/grandparents who also have incomes. Would all these parents and grandparents buy Sims games for their kids/grandkids if they are rated "Mature (whatever that entails)" instead of "Teens"?

It's kind of sad people can only think of one thing apparently when they hear mature. So absolutely not what the OP or anyone here means.

Right? I think more "mature" in gameplay... realistic relationships, acne, menstruation-run fertility cycles (it makes the game harder! I love my period mods!), cursing and fights. Illnesses, etc.
OldeSimsFan
New Traveler
5 years ago
"jkgoodspeed;c-17407628" wrote:
I can see both sides of this issue: but, it seems that PC folks are better off, as they are able to mod their game. I can see where it's tougher for console players (like myself), as we are probably always going to be saddle with a more "teen-friendly" edition of the game. I agree with many of you who aren't looking for a more "adults-only" style of game, but it seems that's the direction of the series now.

Seems more to be the series is headed to T for toddler. What the folks in CA seem to be ingoring is that teens are in preparation for entry into the adult phase of life, with all the responsibilities that entails. They're not kids any longer, not yet adult, but are getting there and soon will be. TS1 & 2 caught that transition feel well, light-hearted but not afraid to face the reality side - which on occasion has its dark/sad moments.
texxx78
5 years ago
I think that it should also cater to us adults. The thing is it isn't at all. And it seems that this is the vision of the company and it wont change. I was 20 when it started and im 40 now. And let me tell you that im a much better client now than i was before. I now buy packs just to collect. I would never do that before.
texxx78
5 years ago
"JoAnne65;c-17401167" wrote:
I saw footage of a hot tub interaction in Sims 1 yesterday, on Twitter. The current generation of simmers reacted totally shocked, that’s all I’m going to say :D It’s absolutely unthinkable they’d do something like that nowadays. Unthinkable. Sometimes I wonder if we moved back to the fifties without realizing it.

We def are moving back in times. It everywhere and in several things. Good and bad. I think we had a blessing childhood and teen years. Now there's a lot of morality concerns. And we all know that where's too much morality there's too much to hide ;)
SintrosiRhalgr
5 years ago
I'd love to see more complex gameplay. I miss the grocery system. I miss having to work to raise relationships and skills. I have so many mods to increase the complexity. In my games my sim's income is lowered, the cost of university is increased, pregnancy odds are manipulated, there is a risk of accidental pregnancy.

I want the chance of things going sideways. I want sim's traits to change how my sim acts, not just what interactions are available to them. I want some personality, some attraction, some challenge, the option to have random events. I want the silly jokes, the slightly off center jokes. I've been playing The Sims since it came with our first computer when I was a kid and I'll be honest, I 100% forgot about the person in the cake thing and now I feel cheated that it's not in TS4.