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Seasoned Observer

2 years ago

The Sims 5 Zodiac Traits

Make it Zodiac Traits and Acquired Traits. The followings specifically refer to Zodiac Traits.

Make it three groups of traits: Sun Traits, Moon Traits, Rising Traits. There are the same 48 traits in all of the groups. Make the season be 7 days and the moon phase cycle be 8 days, just like in The Sims 4. Make each Sun Trait advance once every 14 hours, each Moon Trait advance once every 4 hours, each Rising Trait advance once every 30 minutes in the time system. When a Sim is born, he or she could have three different, or two same and one different, or three same traits. If a Sim has three same traits, then this type of trait of him or her is strong, and so on. Astrologers can give Sims good blind dates or bad ones.

There are three sets of 48 types of actions for Sims. The first set is for Sims who have three different traits, and they have three types of actions from this set according to what traits they have. The actions in the first set are weak. The second set is for Sims who have two same and one different traits, and they have two types of actions from this and the first set according to what traits they have. The actions in the second set are average. The third set is for Sims who have three same traits, and they have only one type of action from this set according to what traits they have. The actions in the third set are strong.

01. Pisces-Aries Cusp Rebirth
02. Aries I. Child
03. Aries II. Star
04. Aries III. Pioneer
05. Aries-Taurus Cusp Power
06. Taurus I. Manifestation
07. Taurus II. Teacher
08. Taurus III. Natural
09. Taurus-Gemini Cusp Energy
10. Gemini I. Freedom
11. Gemini II. New Language
12. Gemini III. Seeker
13. Gemini-Cancer Cusp Magic
14. Cancer I. Empath
15. Cancer II. Unconventional
16. Cancer III. Persuader
17. Cancer-Leo Cusp Oscillation
18. Leo I. Authority
19. Leo II. Balanced Strength
20. Leo III. Leadership
21. Leo-Virgo Cusp Exposure
22. Virgo I. System Builders
23. Virgo II. Enigma
24. Virgo III. Literalist
25. Virgo-Libra Cusp Beauty
26. Libra I. Perfectionist
27. Libra II. Society
28. Libra III. Theater
29. Libra-Scorpio Cusp Drama & Criticism
30. Scorpio I. Intensity
31. Scorpio II. Depth
32. Scorpio III. Charm
33. Scorpio-Sagittarius Cusp Revolution
34. Sagittarius I. Independence
35. Sagittarius II. Originator
36. Sagittarius III. Titan
37. Sagittarius-Capricorn Cusp Prophecy
38. Capricorn I. Ruler
39. Capricorn II. Determination
40. Capricorn III. Dominance
41. Capricorn-Aquarius Cusp Mystery Imagination
42. Aquarius I. Genius
43. Aquarius II. Youth & Ease
44. Aquarius III. Acceptance
45. Aquarius-Pisces Cusp Sensitivity
46. Pisces I. Spirit
47. Pisces II. Loner
48. Pisces III. Dancers & Dreamers

It's simple for playing with only 12 traits of Sun Signs (12 months of Earth's orbit), while it's complicated for playing with 366 traits of Sun Signs (366 days of Earth's orbit), Moon Signs (366 periods of Moon's orbit), Mercury Signs (366 periods of Mercury's orbit), Venus Signs (366 periods of Venus's orbit), Mars Signs, Jupiter Signs, Saturn Signs, and Rising Signs. Let's play with only 48 traits of only Sun Signs (48 weeks of Earth's orbit), Moon Signs (48 periods of Moon's orbit), and Rising Signs. For The 48 Periods, please refer to Personology (by Gary Goldschneider).

Alchemists can change objects into coins or into trash. A small-sized bronze coin is for 1 simoleon, silver coin for 5 simoleons, gold coin for 10 simoleons; a medium-sized bronze coin is for 50 simoleons, silver coin for 100 simoleons, gold coin for 500 simoleons; a large-sized bronze coin is for 1,000 simoleons, silver coin for 5,000 simoleons, gold coin for 10,000 simoleons. Sims can pick up coins from the ground and deposit them in a bank, a piggy bank, and a strong box. When Sims are going to use simoleons in African, European, Asian cities, they must change them into African, European, Asian dollars. The exchange rate fluctuates every day.

For another edition of The Sims traits, please refer to The Sims Traits.
For the other ideas of The Sims 5, please refer to The Sims 5 Ideas.

FriendlySimmers
New Traveler
2 years ago
@yumeng as well as regular zodiac sign how about adding for sims chinese zodiac as well?
Fluteline24
New Spectator
2 years ago
Dear God, that sounds like way too much to keep track of. What was even the point of zodiac signs?
BissenNess
Seasoned Hotshot
2 years ago
Zodiac signs in the Sims 2 were basically shorthand for personality types. You could assign your sims personality points (e.g. 6/10 playful, 3/10 neat, 7/10 outgoing, etc.), and the game would assign the sim a zodiac sign based on that, or you could pick a zodiac sign and the game would populate personality points based on that. They were not two separate things. Once you created the sim and put them in the world, their zodiac classification would influence the sort of sims they were attracted to.

The zodiac signs in Sims 2 actually had nothing to do with when you were born. Twins would have different zodiac signs if they had different personalities.
EgonVM
Seasoned Ace
2 years ago
While I am not a believer of zodiac sign affecting personality, it would be a interesting option to have traits be randomized based on the zodiac sign. I think that would be the best of both worlds.
11a4d9d88dcc7bea
Seasoned Newcomer
2 years ago
I'd vote no on any iteration of Astrology in the game. I don't understand any of that and have better things to do with my time than figuring out a system like that. I mostly ignored it from earlier Sims games, and found TS1 slightly confusing for how its personality system was so tied to it.

I wouldn't mind if numerals were brought back for some basic traits, as long as we still have traits like TS3. And I want more than 3 of them. I'd like for them to effect more than common moodlets as happens in TS4.

IRL Personality theory is a deep topic of research, and no matter what you read in pop-psychology, there are more dimensions to a human than most personality tests allow for. Research isn't even sure right now how many there are.
ChadSims2
Seasoned Novice
2 years ago
Zodiac is pointless I do not want personality tied to a birth month I hated that in past games one of the few things I was happy to lose in Sims 4. The zodiac needs to stay gone I don't need others belief system forced on me or my Sims now a personality point system needs to return.

All these should return with a point system just not tied to the zodiac with added romance personality points added into the base game.

Shy/Outgoing
Grouchy/Nice
Serious/Playful
Sloppy/Neat
Lazy/Active
Unromantic/Romantic
LetMePlaySimSoo
2 years ago
I do not want zodiac stuff back in the Sims.
Anonymous
2 years ago
I want zodiac as a minor influence on attraction, but I do not want the personality points/sliders to determine what zodiac you are and vice versa. They should be independent
https://twitter.com/SimneySpears/status/1495129001123323914?s=20&t=XOzFRt5AtV_Hfkevd_xvBA
LatinaBunny
New Spectator
2 years ago
I wouldn’t like zodiac signs in future games, since my irl Sun sign has awful stereotypes (Scorpio). ? I do like (and lightly believe in) in astrology, but most media makes signs like mine look horrible or one-dimensional, etc.

Edited to add: And I didn’t like it being included in Sims 2, either. I usually tried to ignore it, and hadn’t had too much trouble ignoring the signs and just playing the sims I wanted them to play by adjusting the basic personality trait stats and the sims’ actual actions.
ignominiusrex
2 years ago
Are they actually doing Western zodiac? Gotta use something, but the AD&D alignment system (a sliding scale of lawful to chaotic on one axis, and good to evil on the other) plus archetypes with their own traits on a scale also (in D&D, fantasy species are used such as dwarves, elves, humans, orcs, but one could as easily substitute any designated personality template, plus have differences for occults).

Zodiac are like Tarot card archetypes I guess, but using the chaotic-to-lawful scale on one axis and the good-to-evil on the other would be more useful in generating more unique sims.

I would rewrite the old dnd alignment system to one in which each sim has a dot on the coordinate grid in which one axis runs between orderliness and randomness, and the other runs between altruistic or group-serving, and selfish or self-serving.

Because good and evil are hard to define but most of what we call good and evil boil down to whether we choose to benefit ourselves at the expense of others on one extreme, or sacrifice ourselves for others on the other.

Order to chaos on the other axis just describes how much the individual's actions are consistent with rules, and how much that individuals actions are unpredictable and disregard rules, and how much value they place on order vs. freedom from restrictions.

So a Rebel might be far on the disorderly end while a Proper sim would be far on the orderliness end, but either one could be altruistic or else self-centered.

Alternatively you could write that axis as a scale of empathy, with more empathy equalling being more likely to act for others' benefit and deny self-interest, and less empathy being more likely to put self-interest ahead of anyone else's needs and disregard what benefits the group, plus a tendency to be caring and nurturing would go with higher empathy scores, and a tendency to be callous and even capable of cold-blooded harm to others for personal gain, on the lowest end of the empathy scale.

Oh well I'm not part of making sims5, I just dislike the zodiacs because they are, no matter how many contrivance of detail are tacked onto them, at heart an arbitrary system plucked from imagination based on cultural bias.