Funds

> @jbl3ck said:
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> just go there and use your facebook to announce your great "whatever".
> damn whiner... do u even know how to properly play this game?
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> as things are atm., one with no funds can go a long way... only thing required is "know how" and be active.
> i agree that it can get real expensive for the top (the rank 1 mostly) alliances... that is their choice and complaining about it just doesn't feel right.

lol do you at least know who you are talking about ? reine is one of the elite of this game with many others.
well when this game lose their customers they will be giving away funds to get them back, people with 2 fingers of brain won't be spending such expensive amount of money ...

in my opinion, up the ratio,the 33% bonus should be standard, people like to feel there money is being spent well, someone mentioned business 101 a few pages ago, knowing your intended market is one of the first paragraphs in that book
the vast majority of players iv met along the years have been hard working or some kind of self made something, being ripped off is not an option simple as that, we have the money, give us the goodies boys

"reinemachfrau;c-2144926" wrote:
you cant kill bases with 100cp, i mean bases which are needed and not just the easy ones

If you can't , then you shouldn't... It's a waste of cps and rt and will cause your alliance to lose the battle in the end if you find yourself killing almost every base like it's the fortress. Having a team can help, but this is not the proper way to move forward.

With the "Argentina door", people with large pockets abused it and easily funded multiple accounts to "spam their way" forward and ruin the experience for most players...

The price was right for Argentina only and no Argentinian complained about how expensive it is... Doesn't this make u feel a certain way?
I mean... who's a smart ass?
I know i was (to spawn the response)... what's your excuse?

"reinemachfrau;c-2144926" wrote:
without a paying player base...

This was abused and you and everyone else must've known it'll not work for ever... If anything, this (or something similar) should've happened sooner.

Of course, but their numbers is way lower though and overall strategies will most likely change due to less support from the alternate relatively fundless accounts.

"jbl3ck;c-2145031" wrote:

"reinemachfrau;c-2144926" wrote:
you cant kill bases with 100cp, i mean bases which are needed and not just the easy ones

If you can't , then you shouldn't... It's a waste of cps and rt and will cause your alliance to lose the battle in the end if you find yourself killing almost every base like it's the fortress. Having a team can help, but this is not the proper way to move forward.

you sound kinda clueless, sorry.
i dont know how you play usually and which number of fort you do. i just checked the last worlds i played and your player i couldnt find there.
normally I play in teams on FG worlds. there you have to "eat" through the bases in a narrow dig line to clear POI on your (best) way.
So there is bases which must disappear, you have no choice, you have to kill them. when they dont disappear, that is a real harm for the team (because the bases shoot back and you must lower the waves). beside the fact that that bases around poi can be ugly AF.

sorry but what you wrote is just naiv and not true if you want to play this game propper. sure you have team mates, but after patch 19.2 the team work is killed nearly completely.

again, if you are the type of player who plays worlds for years, do the 5th or 8th fort or later, i can get your point - because you just take your time to play the smooth way.

With the "Argentina door", people with large pockets abused it and easily funded multiple accounts to "spam their way" forward and ruin the experience for most players...

this could be a thing yes. but lets say in "your world" in which you see the multi account as a problem: "my" pocket is big enough to fund multiple accounts, then i still can fund my ass away for one account, with the insane prices, because my pocket is so big. the argentinian door was perfect for all people with normal or small pocket (and big pocket). also the allies i usually play with are 50 players (maybe sometimes 40-45), so it is REAL players and not multi accounts.

The price was right for Argentina only and no Argentinian complained about how expensive it is... Doesn't this make u feel a certain way?

also ARG people complained in forum. they are pissed as well. overall i think you have enough logic that the player base in that country is much smaller than in europe/russia or US... thats why they are more sielent.

I mean... who's a smart ❤️❤️❤️❤️?
I know i was (to spawn the response)... what's your excuse?

i dont need an excuse.

"reinemachfrau;c-2144926" wrote:
without a paying player base...

This was abused and you and everyone else must've known it'll not work for ever... If anything, this (or something similar) should've happened sooner.

well, this worked for years, nobody can tell me that this was not known in EA or EE. I mean they never wondered why the most of their incomes was done via ARG? ;-)

again, what do you think how this game is run when a bigger part of paying player base disappears? do you think EA/EE will still start new servers because they are kind people?

that game needs the players who fund, only then guys like you can play this game with standard capacities. i hope that this enters your mind meanwhile.

in fact, i will stop playing after all my funds are gone and if there is no changes and i am not alone. imho this is not comparable with any other "crisis" of this game i saw in the last years.

i hope that there is still enough (rich) people who fund in future, so you can still play this the way you suggested.

the critic here in forum is addressed to EA and EE, could be they ignore it and just hope the best. I hope they do not ignore it.

Get off your high horse... I kind see u somewhere above talking at me...

I played in the #1 alliance as #1 ranked player when we did the fort. I did my part of funds and i know what i'm talking about.

"reinemachfrau;c-2145088" wrote:
i dont need an excuse.

I see... U're just pissed cause your toy was taken...
Do u see only forward? Are u on the horse or are u it?

There is no point arguing against each other over how we've managed to fund. The initial point of the thread was to try and voice the complaint against the new pricing and how that will ultimately kill the game. From the responses from EE, and his remarks regarding EA, neither have intentions to try working something out that will make the user-base want to continue playing. It seems that there are probably directives from high above to wind this game down. Thinking the funding issue will likely be the cause of that happening. I've seen posts from some of the players in the top alliances, talked to players in the top alliances, and the majority all are saying that once their funds run out, they are leaving the game. Could be just talk, or it could be actual. If true, the numbers seem to be somewhere in the 300-400 range; and those players represent a large, and active majority of players.

It is a shame that the game has slowly died down, it was an extremely fun game in the beginning, but this new issue is going to about clean out the rest of us holding on for whatever good reason we still had to play.

"EE_Elephterion;c-2143627" wrote:

"Soixie;c-2143614" wrote:
Lemme see if I fully understand this thread correctly. Envision (German) working collectively with EA (US), have for the past 8 years allowed most countries outside the US to pay $15 USD for 50k funds.

Envision Entertainment has no handle on any of the payment or pricing matters, that is the sole domain of Electronic Arts. We simply forwarded this loophole to our contacts at EA when we became aware of that and EA acted upon this.
We don't know exactly how long this has been exploited in the past.

I fully understand that, and I see your position too Eleph, you are just doing your job.
For my sake I would like to have a pricing that will keep people playing the game. If many leave there will be a short route for EA to close the game down fully.

What I don't understand is how topping up credits on CnC TA for 1 weeks use cost me more than buying all of the PC versions of the CnC games. Even the new remastered one is $19 and can then be played for years and years.

Personally I think the CP & RT limits should be raised for the 'free' players to get more people to stay on and play all together, and the Crystal loot from PvP should be raised (or repair costs lowered) as a lot of funds go to buying Crystal for PvP. We already spend a lot for CP while PvP'ing, so the Crystal just doubles it up.

Maybe a rebate system that add 10% for each time you buy funds?
No idea what EA think about this at all and do not expect to hear any comments from them either as they always just refer EVERYTHING (even with payment problems) to the forum and Elemphterion and Gamerdruid are left to answer it all. Seem to me that EA have written off the game unfortunately and just scraping the leftovers while it still make a profit.
Some time back when we were dealing with all the login problems and had to flush the cache, use the direct world changer etc, I sent a message to the EA contact in the forum and never had a reply. I then noticed he hadn't even logged in for over 6 months, so my hopes are not too bright.

Will be exiting to see how many start the Vet8 server. I'll probably still be there I guess... ;)

"jbl3ck;c-2145093" wrote:
Get off your high horse... I kind see u somewhere above talking at me...

I played in the #1 alliance as #1 ranked player when we did the fort. I did my part of funds and i know what i'm talking about.

"reinemachfrau;c-2145088" wrote:
i dont need an excuse.

I see... U're just pissed cause your toy was taken...
Do u see only forward? Are u on the horse or are u it?

why take into account my comment, when you just can downplay it with "high horse"... very mature.
and when you argue with "play with 100cp, its not a problem, dont kill each base", sorry but it does not show that you know what you are talking about.
you said it by yourself, you made rank1 (which world was it?) with funds, so dont tell me that it makes sense to play with standard capacities ;)

but ok not my business at the end.
all what need to be said, was said.

we will see if EA/EE takes this problem of overpriced funds seriously or not.

"reinemachfrau;c-2145266" wrote:


we will see if EA/EE takes this problem of overpriced funds seriously or not.

I bet if we hear from EA at all it will be them telling EE and then EE telling us... :D :(