Debate--bring back limited time items

jaytay777 wrote:
Making everything available all the time would render the game meaningless. Why play today (or more importantly from ea perspective buy donuts today) if you can do it later when you might have more time or money? Some missed out but you didn't put in the tapping time that we did either. Truthfully if there weren't limited time updates I think I would take a few months off. Been tapping way too long.

No ones saying bring them back full time, that'd go against the very definition of what Limited Time means. They're just saying bring them back at some point or occasionally, for limited amounts if time, hence repeating some of the previous holiday items around the holidays for donuts, along with new stuff for free and/or donuts (through Whacking Day type events) for those who already have the old stuff to work towards.

Once again, Limited Time is not the same as One Time Only. And I say that as someone who has everything.

Excruciator69 wrote:

dominic115 wrote:
I don't want them back, we played first, we got the items, it shows we were early players. Just because 1/2 of you don't have one of the items you want it back because you want to have everything.

Every argument against re-releasing limited time stuff is a different permutation of the above. All of them boil down to the same thing: a warped sense of superiority and a pathetic means of enforcing self-worth. Nobody cares if you were an early player. You know you were an early player. Is that not good enough?

Thus far, nobody really has an authentic argument against re-releasing old content in some form.

It really seems that having renewing opportunity to obtain older items and a hope for new players to eventually have all the cool stuff they see in other people's Springfields far outweighs the non-existent benefits of massaging the ego of dominic115 and those like him. If I was EA I would be very interested in making sure newer players that decide to be completionists would have opportunities to obtain old stuff and get close to 100%.

Spirit of inclusion > "I Was Here First" Vigorous Ego Stroking

It you would quit the game because new players could get a chance to have the Duff Racer or Moe's Suit and you'd lose precious inches in the unzip-and-measure contest I highly recommend putting down the iPad and reassessing the point of games like this one. Games that don't have winners and losers. You'd don't win if you have Cool Brown House and some guy from Ohio who just saved up enough to buy a new device and started playing TSTO does not and never will. I know it feels like you're better than them but in reality you are anything but.

(I have every item so it's not that I am advocating limited time items returning for my Springfield.)

How about releasing episode specific content that was free for season 24 with a code included in the purchase of the DVD's or Blu-Rays?

Thank you! I just fell in love with you in a totally non-romantic or sexual way, sort of how one would love a sports team or favorite TV show. Awesome and well worded post. Please, have this entire plate of cookies. :)

ICE_GRYLLZ wrote:

FluidEmotion wrote:
The only item that should remain unavailable is the Mapple store because duh...android. Maybe the Duff Racer because it was given out to those who were around at launch or whatever.

So you think the Duff Racer shouldent be given to anyone but the holiday items should?!? It's kind of damaging for all the arguments for bringing them back. "given out to those who were around at launch or whatever" is basically the same as saying given out to those who were around at Halloween or whatever.

I dont realy agree with the EA making money so it makes sense argument. It seams that people are rarely positive about ea, let alone care about them making money. You want them to make money of you because you want to buy all the limited stuff but you dont want them to make money buy charging excessively for donuts. So this argument to mee seems pretty hypocritical.

Excruciator69 wrote:
Every argument against re-releasing limited time stuff is a different permutation of the above. All of them boil down to the same thing: a warped sense of superiority and a pathetic means of enforcing self-worth.

Whats wrong with keeping limited time items limited time? I bought all the limited time stuff at Halloween thinking it was going to be limited time. i would want my money back because i dont really believe items year on year are limited as they could then come up infinite amount of times.

vixoovee wrote:
Plus, it's no secret that there are hacks that bring back the old and/or premium stuff, so having these items don't guarantee loyalty to the game at all.

Since I started playing around Valentine's I'd love to have some Halloween stuff + the cute leprachaun (that I regret I didn't get) and certainly wouldn't mind if EA brings back limited items released after my time playing TSTO.

Yeh there might be hacks but people prepared to buy donuts to get any premium items generally have integrity and wont hack and surely EA can detect that kind of behaviour or will be able to soon.

Looking on this thread the majority of people who are arguing for the re release of the limited time items do so because they joined after the events happen and this;

Excruciator69 wrote:
Every argument against re-releasing limited time stuff is a different permutation of the above. All of them boil down to the same thing: a warped sense of superiority and a pathetic means of enforcing self-worth.

could quite easily be aimed at some one saying they should bring the items back.

The events would be really boring if we just got offered up the same mechanics. I dont want to be tapping zombies, colecting santa coins, seeking love hearts and cracking snake sculls again. EA should come up with new things not re hashing old ones.

Limited Time does not equate to One Time Only. If the items were released as One Time Only, then yes, your argument would have a leg to stand on. But occasionally re-releasing Limited Time items for limited amounts of time lives up to the definition of limited time, and allows those who missed out the opportunity to purchase those items for donuts (many of which you likely got for free so allow that to stroke your ego), and allow EA to likely increase income from the game further, which benefits us all as it promotes the idea to them that new content is a worthwhile and profitable effort. Seriously why are people having so much trouble with this?

Again, I have every item, building, alternate costume, etc, premium, regular, and Limited time, and see no reason to prevent newer players from having that possibility. Also, while EA overall is a pretty shifty company, it doesn't mean we all don't want to see them profit, especially from this game, because as I said, it helps promote the games lifespan and regular releases of new content.

Tedwise27 wrote:
@ Ice... you are certainly a master debater (couldn't resist). Also, I am being completely sarcastic. Nothing you said addressed any of the points you actually quoted. Just because you quote someone and then say they are wrong doesn't mean that you are actually responding to their point. You can never have productive discourse if you just talk past someone. Nevertheless, I will try to actually respond to a couple things you said:

First, I have a hard time taking seriously that you would want your money back because a limited time item came back annually. Why? Does it change the nature of the item? It's only worth it if it is gone soon? I can see why a person may change their order of priorities based on that knowledge, but saying you would not purchase an item if it stuck around... it just rings false to me.

Second: Most of the people who complain that new items should be released on holidays instead start from a false premise: That re-releasing old content and releasing new content are mutually exclusive. Presumably developers could simply reintroduce old code at the same time they made new code with relatively little additional effort.

Third and lastly: Your criticism that a "warped sense of superiority" is the driving force in both sides of the debate is simply ridiculous. In order for a warped sense of superiority to be the driving force, it has to result in your being distinguished in a some manner (hence superior). The argument that content should be made available for all is actually motivated by the completely antithetical motive to superiority - that all players should have equal opportunity regardless of when they started. This is not to say that the argument is correct, but it is clearly not motivated by the same thing... the arguments (aside from being about stuff) are opposite.

The only thing you actually clarified in your entire post was your dire need for a spelling lesson.

Bravo!

Wildcard2500 wrote:
They're called LIMITED TIME ITEMS. Keep them that way.

Limited Time does not mean One Time Only. If they're re-released for a limited amount of time in the future, that doesn't negate their definition. Jesus the same argument keeps being used despite it being completely pointless.