karakira4s wrote:Still trying to develop the best strategy with casino games. :mrgreen: Since in-game probability has nothing to do with real life, there is (almost) no sense in math based schemes. Here is a table with the results of my practice experiment. I played 5 rounds of 22 games (11 at Cletus's and 11 at Moe's in rotation). 110 games in total. Playing Dice I didn't stick to one number but did all numbers starting with 7, then 6, 5, 4, 3, 2, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12 (11 games, that is why one round is 22 games).What do you think, is there any sense? Or is it just coincidence?If you are interested to join this experiment and share your results, you need minimum of 22 tokens to play full round - 11 Dice games and 11 Slots. Would be interesting to have more information. :)Light grey - Dice gamesDark Grey - SlotsRed cell - cheating. Yellow - totals for each semi-round.key - keychainsco - coastersmrt - martinishttp://i.imgur.com/KI1SKBKl.png?1This is an excellent initiative karakira4s!In the absence of being able to look up the source code (which I understand is too convoluted to do at this point), large set statistical analysis is the only way to get the answers to the questions we have had all over these forums! Unfortunately I can't help out since my strategy is to spend them all in Act 3, but hopefully you get some participants for your experiment - it looks well designed and thought out.

For me Moe's is infinitely better than the dice game.

anaquarind wrote:This is an excellent initiative karakira4s!In the absence of being able to look up the source code (which I understand is too convoluted to do at this point), large set statistical analysis is the only way to get the answers to the questions we have had all over these forums! Unfortunately I can't help out since my strategy is to spend them all in Act 3, but hopefully you get some participants for your experiment - it looks well designed and thought out.Thank you anaquarind! I made another 2 rounds and Dice is still leading. Wish you luck with your strategy, sounds like it requires patience and willpower. :)

DrumminBeard wrote:I've got a whole bunch of tokens I'll be blowing this afternoon/evening. I'd like to contribute, but don't know how best to do so. I don't have Excel at home, and know nothing about creating a spreadsheet from scratch.Apart from good ol' pencil-n-paper, do you have a viable suggestion for how I might package the data for you?Thank you, it would be great if you join! I can create a table on google docs for example, but later, now it's dinner time and I will get some free time in 2.5-3 hours, when my family will go to bed. :) If you can't wait it would be nice if you just could do the same table on a paper and then send me a photo of it via PM, since we are in different time zones I will have the whole day to process your data.

I don't need to do tables on what games I have available. I do know, that Gaming Moe's has better odds. Moe's gets you a humongous more amount of chips than Cletus' cruddy Dice Den. Since I don't have Homer's House of Cards, I can't compare that yet, but, as far as i'm concerned, Moe's is my choice for blowing gold coins, plus it rewards more coaster, key chains, and now, a ton of martini's, plus, Sky Finger told me, that there are several Floozies that frequent Moe's, so, what Sky Finger says, stays in Vegas. That's my story, and i'm sticking to it.

I think because people win more times in Moes they think it's better but at the dice game, you win more chips if you do win. Also, it would depend what number you pick at the dice game because if you always pick 7 you won't get as much if you always pick 2

Slots vs Dice: join the experiment

rockyb2006
New Spectator
9 years ago
I don't see how dice will ever be better than slots. The odds of winning "something" besides the loss token are so much higher on the slots over the dice.
stinkbugger
9 years ago
I'd also like to see a time comparison.

i.e. the time it takes to do 50 slot spins compared with the time it takes to 50 rounds of dice.
karakira4s
9 years ago
aacRFSO43 wrote:
Well, here goes my contribution.

Game: Cletus Dice Game
Type: Always going for #2
Number of games: 50

Note: I counted the failed games as 10 chips (since after 10 failed games we get 100 chips in crafting)

(...)

In the end:
- Won 5180 chips
- Average 103,6 chips/token
- Won this type of game in 12 ocasions (24%)
- Won this type of game in 2 ocasions as a result of cheating (4%)

Later I will do the same for Moe's game...

Game: Gaming Moe's
Number of games: 50

(...)

In the end:
- Won 4795 chips
- Average 95,9 chips/token
- Won this type of game (got 400 chips) in 4 ocasions (8%)
- Won this type of game (got 400 chips) in 3 ocasions as a result of cheating (6%)
- In 28% of games got more than 100 chips

Thank you very much for sharing! Great job! This is interesting, even with the same high-risk number Dice was better for you... I assumed Moe payed better comparing to high-risk Dice. That is why I started to play sequences of all 11 numbers. I will add your results at Moe's to my stats.
karakira4s
9 years ago
feivel7112 wrote:
I had collected a lot of chips from act 1 and did my own statistics in the afternoon: 50x Moe and 110x Cletus (10 for each number).
If you are interested I will search my notes later.

It would be great if you share your notes, especially because your Dice game was with different numbers. :)
karakira4s
9 years ago
barryriddl474 wrote:
In Act 1, it took me a wHile to get to level 2 crafting, but by choosing 9 repeatedly (mindlessly tapping in the same spot) at Cletus', it took no time to reach level 3. It seemed like everything helped me advance.

Just my experience.

I also used to play Dice just to acquire courtesy chips or crafting materials. But then with ±200 tokens I tried different combinations just for fun and realised that playing sets of 11 games staking on each number is the most profitable combination. The idea of this thread is to check this theory in practice.
NeoSEC28
9 years ago
Personally i prefer to use the slot machine, i dont like the dice game so much, havent really experimented which pays out more i just use the slots
missy_pepper
9 years ago
ShazamFTW wrote:

If anybody has any ideas as to which number is best, please post!

Number 2 and 12 both give you 400 chips.
Number 3 gives you 300 chips and seems to come round quite often.

But I prefer the slots at Moe's myself. Especially when I've only got a small ammount of coins and have some time left to kill.
direwolf987
9 years ago
I did a small experiment myself. I'm more concerned about crafting material over tokens.

Basically, I had a 30% chance of getting crafting material from the dice game and 50% chance of getting crafting material from Cletus' dice game.

Sample size was 30 games of each.
starstrucsims
9 years ago
I really hated to waste 11 chips at Cletus suck shack, but I wanted to prove how bad it is, so I did. Here are my results with dice versus slots. As you can see, slots blows it away.
mathumster385
9 years ago
direwolf987 wrote:
I did a small experiment myself. I'm more concerned about crafting material over tokens.

Basically, I had a 30% chance of getting crafting material from the dice game and 50% chance of getting crafting material from Cletus' dice game.

Sample size was 30 games of each.

Question, Dire, did you mean a 30% chance from the slots? I'm easily confused. :D