Re: [PC] FPS drops After 1.6.0 Update

I tried limiting threads by disabling SMT in BIOS, which would limit my 5800X3D to 8 threads, made no difference, also tried limiting threads to twelve across 6 cores using task manager affinity, made no difference.

Tested on a fresh Windows 11 Pro install, issue of performance drop at end of stages still persists, last idea i've got to test is to run through the replay and see if it continues to occur when unplugging all my controllers.

@nbates66 I appreciate it. Ive posted the info to the report I sent over to the team!

Cheers!

So just an update for NEAR END OF STAGE performance issues on V1.8 - 

still occurs pretty much every stage, and location/country , and as i predicted, results in a poor experience nearing the end of stages in VR.

patch 1.8.0 and no change  😞

@klofak666 Since the update, has anything in the game changed at all? 

I started testing stages one-by-one, and so far 8/8 stages that i've monitored the performance drops at start or during final sector, Now i really want to get my hands on a Ryzen 5 3600 CPU again to provide more of that comparison. I also tested an older driver, - adrenaline 23.10.2 from 16th October 2023, results seem similar.

EA Shepard  no change still big fps drop at end of each stage. nbates66 has the same problem.

In some places the fps drops to 55 and GPU usage only to 40%.

The game's performance needs fixing, that's all. There is no solution. I played the game at ultra settings without any problems with the latest 1.5.4 update. I don't know what changed with subsequent updates. I tried to play it again yesterday, but it freezes terribly even at low settings. What changed in 2 months? The game's performance probably worsened with the VR update.

I have an RTX 3060 Ti graphics card. Additionally, other PC features are more than sufficient. I played the game for about 200 hours, but now i can't even play it.

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@altayturk96 wrote:

The game's performance needs fixing, that's all. There is no solution. I played the game at ultra settings without any problems with the latest 1.5.4 update. I don't know what changed with subsequent updates. I tried to play it again yesterday, but it freezes terribly even at low settings. What changed in 2 months? The game's performance probably worsened with the VR update.

I have an RTX 3060 Ti graphics card. Additionally, other PC features are more than sufficient. I played the game for about 200 hours, but now i can't even play it.

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You are right! Sometimes there is no solution to certain issues. They are working on updates as we send so much of y'alls feedback to the team! We are excited to see what updates are coming down the pipeline and we really appreciate all of your feedback!

Keep it coming! Keep up the races, and the feedback, and have some fun out there!

@EA_Shepard , Thank you for listening and caring. I'll be looking forward to new updates! 🙂

Fired the game up again after reading that VR was added to 1.8.0.

Super disappointed to find that after 4 more months of patches there is still a massive frame rate drop at the end of stages (as reported and documented in videos here: [Old Report] Low GPU Usage and Framerate - WRC - DLSS no change - Page 6 - Answer HQ).

How has this not been solved already?

I'd like to point this out yet again -

these footages were taken on the same Motherboard, Graphics card, RAM, Game versions, even Windows install, these pictures are same stage, car, weather and graphics settings -The Ryzen 5 3600 is managing frametimes FASTER than the Ryzen 7 5800X3D, why is this? (Before anyone trys to bring it up i've since retested the 5800X3D WITHOUT the power limitation and on fresh windows install, the difference still shows.

For good measure, from a test i did after correcting thermal limits i had placed on the Ryzen 7 5800X3D:

In all instances you can see the GPU is running higher power, frequencies and temperature when paired with the Ryzen 5 3600 than the Ryzen 7 5800X3D, for some reason there is significantly increased waiting by the GPU occurring on the 5800X3D.

I found that if I turn off Resizable bar(AMD smart access memory) in the bios, I get a bit more fps and also less of a drop in gpu usage. But it's still not ideal ☹️

EDIT: so no!  finland and before the end of the stage 55 fps and gpu usage 50%. the game is starting to annoy me...😞

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@klofak666 wrote:

I found that if I turn off Resizable bar(AMD smart access memory) in the bios, I get a bit more fps and also less of a drop in gpu usage. But it's still not ideal ☹️

EDIT: so no!  finland and before the end of the stage 55 fps and gpu usage 50%. the game is starting to annoy me...😞

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Yeah so things i tried that made no difference:

CPPC enabled/disabled

CPPC preferred cores enabled/disabled

AMD smart access memory/resizable Bar enabled/disabled

disable Virtual Super resolution

Disable all options where possible in Radeon Control panel (freesync, enhanced sync, antilag, so on)

Disabling CPU core boost (lock 5800X3D to 3.4-3.6GHz)

SMT enabled/disabled

limit affinity to 6 CPU cores

limit affinity to 6 CPU cores + their SMT pair for 12 threads

different and faster DDR4 memory kit

Windows 10

Windows 11 clean install

AMD Radeon Driver 24.4.1 -Win11

AMD Radeon Driver 23.10.2 -Win10

AMD Radeon Driver 23.12.1 - Win10

AMD Radeon Driver 24.1.1 - Win10

BIOS versions for ASUS B450-I Motherboard:

5302

5404

@nbates66 Thank you for the info. I sent the thread over to the team so they can review it!

Cheers!

@nbates66 

How are you doing these days? Find a solution?

I'm trying to play on PSVR2 on a 6800xt and it's been a nightmare

When I can get my game playable at all, I found that now when I get to this end-stage performance drop it will frequently crashes the game to desktop.

This is happening in Clubs too, where I will be within 0.5km of the finish line but end up with a DNF because of the crash.

But I've noticed that I get this sudden performance drop like you've described right before the crash

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@shearershedge wrote:

@nbates66 

How are you doing these days? Find a solution?

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nah no change really at my end, i am however watching reporting on Windows 11 branch prediction improvements for Ryzen processors, apparently it could improve things for 5xxx series too but i'm not certain yet if it'll have an effect on EA WRC:
first appearing in Windows 11 24H2:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rlfTHCzBnnQ

but also getting backported to Windows 11 23H2 via an optional update
https://old.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/1f2t9s5/amd_confirms_branch_prediction_optimizations_are/

as far as crashing goes - I'm i can't say i had VR crash many times but i haven't put in enough VR-side hours to know for sure, and also my ideal VR runtime route of via WindowsMR OpenXR implementation got broken in an EA WRC update.

Any news about this issue?

It is still there in 1.9 and as I am using VR, the frame drops at the end of nearly all stages are a complete show stopper for me that made me uninstall the game and get back to DIRT Rally 2.0.

I have a problem. EA SPORTS™ WRC update version 1.9. RTX4090 FE video card. Graphics settings 3840 x 2160, maximum quality! You start the race, and in some places in some tracks the game stumbles and slows down, then goes smoothly, then twitches again. If you restart the track, then in those places where the picture used to twitch, now it does not twitch, but begins to twitch in other places along the track. Sometimes the game suddenly goes into smooth mode after starting a track without a single stop, and you can walk to the end of the track without a single stop and stumble! But if you restart the track, the freezes will resume again. Disabling the hardware acceleration of the Win 11 GPU during scheduling does not solve the problem. Using DLSS or disabling it, as well as even switching the quality to ultra-low and 1920 x 1080 resolution also does not solve the problem.!

Add. 1. All the different combinations of vsync, and the "maximum performance" mode, and the "low latency" mode. I even replaced the operating system from Windows 10 Pro to Windows 11 Pro, I bought a new RTX4090 FE video card (previously it was RTX 3080Ti) I did my best, but it did not lead to an improvement in the situation. The only thing I noticed is that in those moments when severe stuttering occurs, the FPS indicator does not fall below 53 frames, but it feels like the frame rate is at the level of 25-30 frames. But the frame-per-second counter shows 53-55 frames per second. Sometimes it seems that the PCI-E bus bandwidth is not enough. But I'm sure there's nothing wrong with the PCI-E bus. No game behaves like this anymore. Although I always set all games to the maximum quality settings and 4K resolution! Most importantly, it is alarming that after several preloads of the route, it may happen that I will be able to complete the entire route without a single stumble. And this is with maximum graphics settings! But once you restart the track again, there are jerks again, which alternate with smooth passage. It looks like this: smoothly, jerkily, smoothly, jerkily!

Add. 2. Any other games with maximum 4K quality on the same TV, which I use as a huge monitor, give a great game without the slightest twitch (v-sync is enabled).

Add. 3. I noticed an interesting behavior. There is always a slowness at the beginning of any of the tracks! It feels like FPS = 30, but I'm sure it's a glitch in the game because the FPS counter shows 60. So, if at this moment you go into the graphics settings and change any of the values, then exit the settings menu even without saving (!), then the slowness disappears and the game goes smoothly! Then, in some rare places, there is a slowdown and jerks, which I wrote about above, but this trick with the settings no longer works!.
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