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  • Ok, I just had 3 CTDs in 10 minutes. WTF is happening? I CAN'T PLAY LIKE THIS!

  • Most of the time a crash to desktop will be do to graphic drivers since this just started after the big graphic patch and repair of the game and a scan of the hard drive showed nothing. I would look at your graphic drivers are up to date i know nvidia just released a graphic driver. The optimization that was down was on the graphic side of swtor They changed alot of the files that were text files to binary so this is were i think your issue is.

  • Oh please please, please make it something juicy like a P8400 oc'd to 3.4ghz running a Ti on 300watts

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    Cuiwe
    10 years ago

    Yeah, I figured that it had something to do with them editting the game code. I completely forgot that they changed from text to binary lol. This is a change I'd NEVER aprove-but then again I am risk averse.

    Drivers updated-I'll try installing the latest ATi beta driver-that's as much as I can do. Oh and I can try to reinstall swtor, if that will even accomplish anything is up to anyone's guess.

    Here's a full write up of my system:

    win7 64bit ultimate

    Intel i5 3470 3,2GHz(I think it's set at that frequency, no OC)

    8GB RAM

    16GB VRAM

    ATi HD 7850 2GB, 1,2GHz clock

    1680*1050*60Hz resolution

    ...for some reason I don't think it's on my end. Especially because it crashes at RANDOM locations / times. Hell, yesterday I had it crash during the quick travel lol(I heard it hiccup on my earphones)! The only warning I could find is that virtual storage support(StorLib bus) has "failure using the VxD loader", but I don't think it has anything to do with this. As I said, I didn't have any problems(except crippling lag after 3,0, but that was a common issue) up to this point.

  • I found a lot of the newer drivers for that generation of card were less stable then say.. amd_catalyst_13.4_legacy_beta_vista_win7_win8.

    To the point that even to this day on Windows 10 with that machine I still use those drivers for my HD7770, granted its nothing flash but it still spits out a pretty dot for swtor.

    https://community.amd.com/thread/185041

    This may give you some food for thought.

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    Cuiwe
    10 years ago

    Right, I did two things:

    Firstly, I installed the beta driver as I said I would.

    Secondly, I changed the AA from "medium" to "high"(I guess from fxaa to msaa).

    Result: I had no drop out today. Ok, I had an unfortunate lag spike, but that has absolutely nothing to do with this. Will continue to monitor over the weekend and post accordingly.

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    proxos666
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    10 years ago

    @Cuiwe wrote:

    The only warning I could find is that virtual storage support(StorLib bus) has "failure using the VxD loader"


    @Cuiwe

    1. Go into the Device Manager,

    2. click on view, check off "show hidden devices"

    3. Scroll down to the item "Virtual File System"

    4. Expand this list 

    5. Right click on and either disable or uninstall the driver for "StorLib bus (virtual storages support)

  • Cuiwe's avatar
    Cuiwe
    10 years ago

    Here's a dxdiag link:

    http://hastebin.com/ixohuvekop.tex

    I am more and more concerned that the signal is breaking up somewhere between me and the actual server. Kinda reminds me of how much I hate "always online" scam. tracert and ping will be next I think.

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    proxos666
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    10 years ago

    @Cuiwe

    only thing that is an anomaly in the dxdiag is the 2nd monitor what monitor model is this ?

    Current Mode: 2560 x 1600 (32 bit) (60Hz)
           Monitor Name: Generic PnP Monitor
          Monitor Model: SyncMaster
             Monitor Id: SAM03F2
            Native Mode: 1680 x 1050(p) (59.954Hz)

    try dropping back to single monitor with the monitor connected by DVI, any change ?

    Have you tried searching for dump file to see if any indication ?

    Try using http://www.resplendence.com/whocrashed

  • Cuiwe's avatar
    Cuiwe
    10 years ago

    Meh, WhoCrashed is useless as a free tool. Almost to the "SWTOR free" level useless. I didn't see any dump files created. Because it doesn't really crash. It merely exits itself at its own will. Something is clashing with something elseand its causing instability, I just know it.

    The virtual monitor is there because of an HDMI, it won't work the other way-I tried. I've some errors if I don't enable dual monitor. Forgot which because I haven't thought about this for quite some time.

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    Cuiwe
    10 years ago

    @proxos666 wrote:

    @Cuiwe

    only thing that is an anomaly in the dxdiag is the 2nd monitor what monitor model is this ?

    Current Mode: 2560 x 1600 (32 bit) (60Hz)
           Monitor Name: Generic PnP Monitor
          Monitor Model: SyncMaster
             Monitor Id: SAM03F2
            Native Mode: 1680 x 1050(p) (59.954Hz)

    try dropping back to single monitor with the monitor connected by DVI, any change ?

    Have you tried searching for dump file to see if any indication ?

    Try using http://www.resplendence.com/whocrashed


    I've finally caught what's happening. Luckily for me, my computer blue screened and I was able to read what was going on:

    MEMORY WAS BEING DUMPED

    in other words:

    MEMORY LEAK.

    This is now officialy Bioware problem. When they tried fiddling with the code, they caused my game to have severe problems with memory leaks it seems. Hence it auto exiting itself every time the RAM tried to clear itself(I guess). Very well, it seems that my opponent has showed its face-a very unwise move :D .

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    proxos666
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    10 years ago

    @Cuiwe

    memory being dumped is what occurs on a blue screen , this is what bluescreen view and what crashed me read to try and ascertain a cause.

    If it was a memory leak on the game it would affect every person running the game 

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    Cuiwe
    10 years ago

    @proxos666 wrote:

    @Cuiwe

    memory being dumped is what occurs on a blue screen , this is what bluescreen view and what crashed me read to try and ascertain a cause.

    If it was a memory leak on the game it would affect every person running the game 


    I wanted to view the dump file, but I don't know how. I got the Windows debugging tools, but I really don't know what to do with them.

  • Further, here's a .dmp file read out for you to analyze:


    DUMP FILE: 101515 - 19765 - 01.dmp
    CRASH TIME: 15.10.2015 23:32:34
    BUG CHECK STRING: MEMORY_MANAGEMENT
    BUG CHECK CODE: 0 x 00000001a
    PARAMETER 1: 00000000`00041284
    PARAMETER 2: 00000000`f4a2b001
    PARAMETER 3: 00000000`0000d2c4
    PARAMETER 4: fffff700`01080000
    CAUSED BY DRIVER: ntoskrnl.exe
    CAUSED BY ADDRESS: ntoskrnl.exe + 74200
    FILE DESCRIPTION: NT Kernel and System
    PRODUCT NAME: Microsoft(registered) Windows(registered) Operating System
    COMPANY: Microsoft Corporation
    FILE VERSION: 6.1.7601.19018(win7sp1_gdr.150928-1507)
    PROCESSOR: x64
    CRASH ADDRESS: ntoskrnl.exe + 74200
    STACK ADDRESS 1:
    STACK ADDRESS 2:
    STACK ADDRESS 3:
    COMPUTER NAME:
    PROCESSORS COUNT: 4
    MAJOR VERSION: 15
    MINOR VERSION: 7601
    DUMP FILE SIZE: 275.368
    DUMP FILE TIME: 15.10.2015 23:33:45

  • Cuiwe's avatar
    Cuiwe
    10 years ago

    @proxos666 wrote:

    @Cuiwe

    Best thing to do initially is test the memory i'm afraid

    normally 5 to 6 test passes is what is recommended

    use either www.memtest86.com or www.memtest.org

    Edit - have linked one similar thread at Microsoft for you


    I already did that and got errors. The differing number of errors based upon a scan(first like 400 in 3 hours then 75 in 8,5 hours)-but all were clustered around the 6th Gigabyte(6-6,15 range to be exact).

    I even dusted the computer, but I know what I need to do. Eh...if it keeps auto exitting itself even AFTER I install the new memory...EA will hear from me.

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    proxos666
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    10 years ago


    I already did that and got errors. The differing number of errors based upon a scan(first like 400 in 3 hours then 75 in 8,5 hours)-but all were clustered around the 6th Gigabyte(6-6,15 range to be exact).

    I even dusted the computer, but I know what I need to do. Eh...if it keeps auto exitting itself even AFTER I install the new memory...EA will hear from me.


    @Cuiwe

    If errors are appearing your memory sticks are faulty hence memory errors

    looks like you proved the cause

  • Cuiwe's avatar
    Cuiwe
    10 years ago

    @proxos666 wrote:


    I already did that and got errors. The differing number of errors based upon a scan(first like 400 in 3 hours then 75 in 8,5 hours)-but all were clustered around the 6th Gigabyte(6-6,15 range to be exact).

    I even dusted the computer, but I know what I need to do. Eh...if it keeps auto exitting itself even AFTER I install the new memory...EA will hear from me.


    @Cuiwe

    If errors are appearing your memory sticks are faulty hence memory errors

    looks like you proved the cause


    Idk, it can still be a MoBo socket failure or something online(like...TeliaSonera-the gamer's nightmare :D).  We'll see after I get my new RAM aftter KoTFE for sure...

    For now, it is RAM failure.

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