Product: The Sims 4Platform: PCWhich language are you playing the game in? EnglishHow often does the bug occur? 100%What is your current game version number? 1.107.151What expansions, game packs, and stuff packs do you have installed? All of themSteps: How can we find the bug ourselves? Go to the gallery and find a residential lot and place it on the Onsen lot in Mt. Komerebi.What happens when the bug occurs? The lot shows as residential on the map but when you enter in build mode it's still an incomplete Onsen (as it should be). If you then add the items that you need for it to be an Onsen, it turns back into an Onsen on the map too.What do you expect to see? Either that I can't place a residential on the Onsen lot or that it stays an Onsen the whole time. I can move someone in the brief time it's a residential lot and that messes up the whole lot. It could be solved the same way as the high school where I can only place it in build mode so that I have to make it complete or like the auditorium that just stays an auditorium.Have you installed any customization with the game, e.g. Custom Content or Mods? Never UsedDid this issue appear after a specific patch or change you made to your system? Unsure Pic 1 shows the map if I don't move a Sim in, Pic 2 shows the map after I moved a Sim in Going to build mode without a Sim then shows it as Onsen Bathhouse and I can fix it by adding the requirements. If I added a Sm, the business funds break and the lot type is greyed out. EDIT: This is now happening for any community lot replaced with an residential one. Onsen is a bit special as it shouldn't become a residential lots but the other types should. Related issues [WORKAROUND] Lot Types Change/ Business Funds for residential housing [WORKAROUND] Placing residential lot on vacation lot breaks lot (Business Funds)

I can replicate this issue. After following the replication steps, when I enter the household (who lives on the Onsen lot) I cannot enter build mode. I imagine this will corrupt the save so this issue should seriously be addressed.

This issue literally corrupts your save. Not sure why more attention hasn't been drawn to it

Product: The Sims 4Platform:PCWhich language are you playing the game in? EnglishHow often does the bug occur? Every time (100%)What is your current game version number? 1.108.349.1020What expansions, game packs, and stuff packs do you have installed? All except: Crystal CreationsSteps: How can we find the bug ourselves? Save 5-1-2 Kiyomatsu lot to the gallery; Save the Sutefani Onsen Bathhouse lot to the gallery; delete the Osen lot and place the 5-1-2 lot-- won't let you change the lot type from Onsen to Vacation Rental OR won't let the residential lot stay as a residential lot. What happens when the bug occurs? It won't let you change the community lot type to residential lot-- OR won't let the community lot change to vacation rental lot.What do you expect to see? The lot type change from onsen to vacation rental.Have you installed any customization with the game, e.g. Custom Content or Mods? YesDid this issue appear after a specific patch or change you made to your system? Neutral/Not Sure The first picture is from the manage world view with the 5-1-2 lot placed.The second picture is the download lot from the gallery labeled as "residential" placed on the onsen lot-- usually it asks if I want to change the lot type. It doesn't.Third picture is when the house is deleted, back to manage worlds, game restarted, and back to the lot.

@carjeajoh The onsen lot is a lot that you cant change normally. There does seem to be an issue with it when you try to place a residential rental and there should be another thread. Currently only on my phone so ill search for that thread later and merge

The lot is probably required to remain an Onsen Bathhouse because it is used as the starting point for mountain climbing expeditions.

Placing residential over community lot doesn't change lot type properly

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rory_nutt
Seasoned Ace
12 months ago
I can replicate this issue. After following the replication steps, when I enter the household (who lives on the Onsen lot) I cannot enter build mode. I imagine this will corrupt the save so this issue should seriously be addressed.
rory_nutt
Seasoned Ace
11 months ago
This issue literally corrupts your save. Not sure why more attention hasn't been drawn to it
carjeajoh
Rising Novice
10 months ago
Product: The Sims 4
Platform:PC
Which language are you playing the game in? English
How often does the bug occur? Every time (100%)
What is your current game version number? 1.108.349.1020
What expansions, game packs, and stuff packs do you have installed? All except: Crystal Creations
Steps: How can we find the bug ourselves? Save 5-1-2 Kiyomatsu lot to the gallery; Save the Sutefani Onsen Bathhouse lot to the gallery; delete the Osen lot and place the 5-1-2 lot-- won't let you change the lot type from Onsen to Vacation Rental OR won't let the residential lot stay as a residential lot.
What happens when the bug occurs? It won't let you change the community lot type to residential lot-- OR won't let the community lot change to vacation rental lot.
What do you expect to see? The lot type change from onsen to vacation rental.
Have you installed any customization with the game, e.g. Custom Content or Mods? Yes
Did this issue appear after a specific patch or change you made to your system? Neutral/Not Sure
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The first picture is from the manage world view with the 5-1-2 lot placed.
The second picture is the download lot from the gallery labeled as "residential" placed on the onsen lot-- usually it asks if I want to change the lot type. It doesn't.
Third picture is when the house is deleted, back to manage worlds, game restarted, and back to the lot.
crinrict
Hero+
10 months ago
@carjeajoh The onsen lot is a lot that you cant change normally. There does seem to be an issue with it when you try to place a residential rental and there should be another thread. Currently only on my phone so ill search for that thread later and merge
Sketch793
Seasoned Ace
10 months ago
The lot is probably required to remain an Onsen Bathhouse because it is used as the starting point for mountain climbing expeditions.
crinrict
Hero+
10 months ago
@carjeajoh I merged your post with the bug report but from your description it sounds like the issue with the lot showing as residential on the map might actually not occurring anymore ?

Will need to double check that later.
Genevieve4
Rising Scout
8 months ago
Product: The Sims 4

Platform: PC

Which language are you playing the game in? English

How often does the bug occur? Every time when the lot type is not changed manually in Build mode, prior downloading lot from the Gallery (in both ways: via world view and via build mode)

What is your current game version number? 1.110.311.1020 DX9

What expansions, game packs, and stuff packs do you have installed? All by the date 12.11.2024 (November). Last installed pack is Life and Death.

Steps: How can we find the bug ourselves?
There are 2 ways, in both ways bug occurs for me.
First way from the World View
1.Find any community lot.
2.From World View replace the lot from gallery to Residential. When the pop up shows with "Choose lot type", leave it on "Residential (Gallery)".
3.Take a family and move it into that lot.
4. Load into a Live mode. You may see that sone service sims are present (like barmen, librarians etc.)
5.Open Build mode --> Lot type is community lot, same type as prior replacement to residential lot.
Sim owns community lot, which is a bug
Second way from the Build menu
1.Find any community lot.
2.Click build the community lot.
3.Open Gallery and replace the lot to Residential from Gallery. When the pop up shows with "Choose lot type", leave it on "Residential (Gallery)".
4. Exit to the World view
5. Move the sim into just replaced Residential lot.
6.Load into a Live mode. You may see that sone service sims are present (like barmen, librarians etc.)
7.Open Build mode --> Lot type is community lot, same type as prior replacement to residential lot.
Sim owns community lot, which is a bug

What happens when the bug occurs? Sim owns a community lot they are not supposed to own by game mechanics. Sim owns Bars, Libraries, etc. This makes the lot bugged.

What do you expect to see? Lot type correctly changed when placed from the gallery with a pop up that shows --"Choose lot type" --> leave it on "Residential (Gallery)"--
Have you installed any customization with the game, e.g. Custom Content or Mods? No Mods
I first encountered bug on my modded save. I then removed mods, cleared Sims 4 folder from cache, created a new UNmoded save. So a save provided in this bug thread is without mods.

Did this issue appear after a specific patch or change you made to your system? I have noticed the issue between versions 109 and 110 and the issue moved to the last version of the game too 1.110.311.1020
Workaround that for now works for me to avoid the bug:
1.Find any community lot.
2.Click build the community lot.
3. MAIN STEP OF THE WORKAROUND: Change the lot type from "Community type (Bar, Library, etc) to "Residential" PRIOR downloading lot from the Gallery.
4.Open Gallery and replace the lot already from Residential to Residential.
4. Exit to the World view
5. Move the sim into just replaced Residential lot.
6.Load into a Live mode.
7.Open Build mode --> Lot type seems stayed as residential lot.
Partial work around, after the bug already present on the lot:
1.When you click on the bugged lot with a sim in there you get option to "sell business" in the bottom right conner of a World View.
2.Click it.
3.Then, possibility to move out a sim from a world view appears.
4.After the sim is out, go to build menu and switch the lot back to residentials.
5.Then move the sim back.
And here are 2 end results of it: :
Way 1: Sometimes it fixes the issue for the family when go to LIVE mod, and lot will be in correct type "Residentials" , BUT in build buy menu there will be no money taken from the household budget, when placing objects. I think it's because the game still thinks that this lot is a community lot type. In LIVE mode paying bills will also not work on such lots - upon clicking on "pay bills" sim will struck a T-pose and generate a last exception. To help with bills situation --> Such lot can be changed to "residential rental" type - which seems allowing sim to pay their bills. But if we move the family out and try to change it back to residential and then move family back - bug occurs again.
Way 2: Nothing helps and lot stays bugged ☹️
As a conclusion, I think function that allows to replace the lot type upon downloading from the Gallery is bugged.
Here is a link to my test save where the bug is visible : https://drive.google.com/file/d/1ov0RwsID5xQ8hhd-lUi4kfZsmfTMgHZG/view?usp=sharing
Please go to Willow Creek, there will be 3 lots in Crawdad Quarter
Lots are named with a away they were tested :
1. Replaced from the world view (Old place of Blue Velvet night club) - bugged
2.Replaced with using a workaround, with changing lot type prior downloading from the Gallery (Old Gym "Movers and Shakers") - not bugged
3. Replaced in a build view with a pop up - leave it on "Residential (Gallery)" (old Willow creek library) - bugged.
I think I have mentioned all I could.
If there need more data to it, please let me know.
Thank you for looking into it 🙂
Genevieve4
Rising Scout
8 months ago
More screenshots that didnt fit into Original post :
crinrict
Hero+
8 months ago
@Genevieve4 Going to merge this with the onsen thread as it seems now to occur for all commercial lots. Same symptoms though although onsen still is a bit special.
olga_k2
8 months ago
@Genevieve4 Oh my god, you're a hero. If they pretend they can't reproduce the bug after this, I don't know what to do. In fact, all lot types except residential will revert to default after a while.