Re: just watched shroud Alt -F4 Apex ... yeah its that BAD!

Actually, a lot of people watch streamers and YouTubers because they rage - not in spite of it.

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@LockOutz_YT wrote:

guess you didnt read my post eh.... he either got Stream sniped out or wall hacked and hit with a soft aimbot... the fact he didnt have anyone in the group is nilll... the fact still remains why he quit to go play a different game where he has more success without batteling botters snipers what ever you want to call it, in another game... people like me are excatly who should be here im here everyday in the forums watching the game watching the posts on and off twitch in other forums and playing the game im a REAL gamer and active within the community sir! i dont slide into posts and drop a comment and bounce. further more  being toxic in a  post about a top tier streamer being fed up and quiting is excatly why i made the topic you must not come here often enough to read these countless posts but hey! 

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I certainly DID read your post, that's how I know you are purely lying about why he quit to fit your personal agenda of complaining about hackers, and wildly bending the truth to make it seem like Apex is losing it's pro player base because of it.

Shroud made absolutely no mention of suspecting foul play from the players who downed him, I watched the full stream.

He has Skadoodle standing in the room with him, and talks to him about having very bad games for a full hour, then he talks to chat and says he finds it frustrating that his team mates are not on par just minutes before quitting after getting boxed in another game.

It had literally nothing at all to do with hackers or stream snipers whatsoever.

Nice try trying to dodge my accusation against you by rambling about reading posts on this forum for an entire paragraph, but I don't think anyone is buying tbh fam.

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@LockOutz_YT wrote:

guess you didnt read my post eh.... he either got Stream sniped out or wall hacked and hit with a soft aimbot... the fact he didnt have anyone in the group is nilll... the fact still remains why he quit to go play a different game where he has more success without batteling botters snipers what ever you want to call it, in another game... people like me are excatly who should be here im here everyday in the forums watching the game watching the posts on and off twitch in other forums and playing the game im a REAL gamer and active within the community sir! i dont slide into posts and drop a comment and bounce. further more  being toxic in a  post about a top tier streamer being fed up and quiting is excatly why i made the topic you must not come here often enough to read these countless posts but hey! 

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I don't think pubg has less hackers.  Doesn't even have more players.   But it has a bigger pro scene and part of that is because it has a ranked match maker.  In fact,  this shroud topic should be a wake up call to those who constantly say "just go find some friends to play with"   If a popular guy like shroud is complaining about the same things.

Noobs don't like to face pros.  and pros don't like to play with noobs.  Without a proper ranked and unranked match maker for this game,  everyone is going to have the same basic gripes.

I personally would not mind waiting a minute to queue if it meant I get teamates at my own level of dmg and placement.

In fact, not having a skill rated match maker is the reason for so many hackusation threads as well.

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@d3adc3II wrote:
Put Apex aside, let's talk abouy Pubg. If u play Pubg long enough, u should alr know Pubg rank system is gabbage , and the matchmaking does not work most of the time.

Pubg highest rank means 1 thing: u played the game alot. You can Afk the whole game, do nothing and still able to grind to the highest rank.

The matchmaking does not work most of the time because it worked based on many factors: same region, within the rank range.

If queueing time is too long, it will need to backfill players from other regions.

The thing is, many regions just dun have enough players to start the game. So Ocean players will join Sea server. China players will join US server lol.

Another issue is: many maps become dead.
On top of that, there are too many game modes ( Tpp/fpp, solo/duo/squad, and 4 maps) it splits playerbase and the queue time is riddiculously long unless u choose quick match.

It's the problem Pubg has. Im curious to see how Respawn solve this.

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doesn't matter its what people like.  apex.tracker.gg is why alot of these pros are playing apex and that can be just looked at as time played as well.

A ranked and unranked queues will give most people what they want.  Some who don't care about winning and just hot drop for aim practrice.  and those who want ot play against other players of equal skill and be on a leaderboard.

@Wingmannedbro You really believe streamers/pros wouldn't stop playing an fps because of cheaters? hahaha

CS:GO almost died as a game when cheaters completely infested it. Same with pubg, same with fortnite. No coincidence?

And streamers stopped playing them at those times, because it's exhausting to face scrubs that can't aim on their own.

"It had literally nothing at all to do with hackers or stream snipers whatsoever." That's very questionable.

p.s. I've heard every top apex streamer, including Shroud complain to no end about cheaters. So your statement falls flat right there. It's just clear they try their best to keep it under wraps.

Why do you think he would stop playing it? A little lag? please. he plays pubg.

chase them away there alll gone... the ones that are left streaming this game and or playing are soft aimbotters and wall hackers twitch allows it the game devs it self cant stop it... we are getting no new content updates and .... UPDATES that was suppose to fix * made it worse .....stock market has crashed the devs them selvs say there not in a hurry to do anything about the game.... so if your still playing [pc] side then your either new , oblivious, or botting 

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@d3adc3II wrote:
@RichAC

Don't get it wrong, I also think ranking system is good if they implement it properly. But believe me when I say this forum will be flooded with rants and complaints as soon as they intro ranking now.
Why?

Ranked mode suppose to bring good players with similar ranks together. But it actually will bring more hackers to play with high ranked players lolz. It will chase those good player away or they choose unranked mode, no one want to die to the hacker and lose rank. In this current stage, it will definitely happen.

imo, apex.tracker.gg is all about grinding lol. If a world class player only plays 1 or 2 days per week, there is no chance for him to get higher position in the leaderboard. You need to play 12hrs a day to get that.
Most famous streamers/players dun even care bout it, but unknown/unpopular ppl see it as a chance to be recognized.

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I don't see the problem.

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@LockOutz_YT wrote:

chase them away there alll gone... the ones that are left streaming this game and or playing are soft aimbotters and wall hackers twitch allows it the game devs it self cant stop it... we are getting no new content updates and .... UPDATES that was suppose to fix * made it worse .....stock market has crashed the devs them selvs say there not in a hurry to do anything about the game.... so if your still playing [pc] side then your either new , oblivious, or botting 

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I feel there is alot less cheaters now.  most cheaters I've seen were right on release.