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Re: Graphics settings don't matter?

A i7-8700k is going to struggle to maintain 60fps in 128 player game modes.

https://youtu.be/6fIf-C8UjWY

The only thing you can do besides upgrading the CPU is play in 64 player game modes instead. Ray tracing taxes the CPU so turn that off too.

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  • meeha2's avatar
    meeha2
    3 years ago

    @OskooI_007I think they got rid of the 128 player maps?
    @ATFGunrTried to disable ray tracing just now for a couple of seconds, got a bit of an improvement... Like 40-50 FPS, but still, from time to time, the game freezes...

    Overall, I don't think it's the engine or anything else, it's... Greed... Like, DICE wants cheap employees, and expects them to work... 80 hours/week... Working uber hard and under constant pressure. (I mean, I heard the veterans left because they refuse to work under constant pressure, and the new hires just don't know all the tricks of the engine)

    Also, Edge is based on Chromium, same stuff Chrome works from, so I don't think I'll have a decent FPS boost.

    Like I said, it's not the game to blame, it's the greed... The devs admitted themselves they chose the least buggy moments for the trailer, and they couldn't fix most bugs by release date, and now they're just starting to fix some stuff... How long it'll take? It'll be easier to just create a newer version of the game engine and start from grounds up a new game... And they did start a new game (not sure if on the same version of the engine or new or... whichever) but we'll just have to wait and see another... failure? I mean, if it'll be yet another catastrophe, I think like at least 50% of gamers will say good bye to the game and... EA just needs better management. Not DICE, but EA in general...

  • ATFGunr's avatar
    ATFGunr
    Legend
    3 years ago
    @meeha2 I don’t know anyone who plans on preordering, I can tell you that much. Between my clan mates and these forums, it’s going to have to be actually good or it’s going to sink like the carriers in BF1942.
  • @ATFGunr Yeah, after preordering the Garbagefield 2042 I sort of regret it... And so the next game - will definitely not preorder. We'll see how deep they are diggin the hole for themselves, but for the next game, I'll watch TONS of reviews, will do my best to find TONS of videos with roughly the same config as my next comp will be, and overall, we'll see how bad it'll be. If, however, it'll be in a good condition (not in "acceptable", but good) I will probably buy it. If it'll suck just as much as Garbagefield 2042 (or even worse?), I will not. And something tells me most other players will do the same...
  • ATFGunr's avatar
    ATFGunr
    Legend
    3 years ago
    @meeha2 I’ve ridden out the troubles in 3, 4, and V. 2042 has been a complete disaster in comparison to those titles. I missed the hard start for BC2 thankfully. Those ones were good enough to hold the players to where it improved. This one took 8 months to get to a playable level, which is obviously too long looking at player numbers. It’s good enough now that if it had content, it’s be a good game. Still needs work, but it’s playable and relatively enjoyable, it’s just boring. There are lots of threads on that topic so I won’t flog a dead horse. A server browser would have saved it 4 months ago, players who had bought it would have come back. It’s too late and they’re not giving us one anyways, just seem to lack the courage to tell us.
  • @ATFGunr 30-40 FPS and constant freezes is playable you say?!? OK then, no problem, forget about this thread and life's good... Sorry to bother you.
  • meeha2's avatar
    meeha2
    3 years ago
    @UP_Hawxxeye Just read the OP again please... But I'll try the settings tomorrow. But still, I don't think they'll change anything... If the game can't run on low settings... But I'll try, just to make you relax.
  • UP_Hawxxeye's avatar
    UP_Hawxxeye
    Legend
    3 years ago

    @meeha2I am also curious myself.
    I had a 1050 ti until yesterday and I run only on low settings to keep the game at 40+ fps
    Now I have a new 3060 ti with 100+ fps with mostly low settings 1080p and DLSS. No RTX yet.

    I will experiment with different settings to see how much I can increase them them without dipping bellow 60 minimum.

    the rest of my rig is 32 gb ram ( I also have too many tabs)

    and AMD 5800X

  • since patch 1.1.0 the game has again some issues which were already fixed and causes a performance drop.

    Also comparing BF2042 with older battlefields is not working when you count in the 128players with all BF before had max 64 players

    So, 128 players are doubling the load which your CPU needs to calculate and the network traffic which is generated is much higher because more information needs to be transferred.

    So that’s why changing the graphics setting will not influence it so much as you expect because the CPU is the main bottleneck and sometimes also the network traffic.

    I have an i7-10700, RTX2070, 32GB Ram and use win11, I got constant 60FPS on 1080p, VSync on, Ultra Setting, RTX OFF and DLLS OFF. I had a smooth and stable gameplay.

    But since patch 1.1.0 I have some fluctuations in the FPS with around 5 to 10 fps sometimes (using DLLS don’t change anything for me)

    This unstable fps only kicks in after the first match (it starts with the end screen showing up for the three outstanding players...) and after this it stays for the whole session.

    Also, since 1.1.0 it doesn’t matter for me if I play 128 player conquest or 64 players Breakthru. The behaviour of unstable performance is in both modes the same for me (since 1.1.0)

    If you have a second monitor, you should try and watch a YouTube video beside gaming BF2042.

    After some point the video gets laggy up to the point that video is freezing and you only hear the audio. Sometimes it refreshes when you get killed and respawn.

    At the moment they only changed Breakthru from 128player to 64player which i can understand (balance was awful) but if they get rid of the 128player maps for conquest they will lose me as a customer for sure, this was one of my main reasons to buy BF2042.

  • It’s a simple cpu bottleneck and no amount of lower settings will help.You simply don’t have the cpu horse power to simulate 128 player games and push the card at the same time.

  • UP_Hawxxeye's avatar
    UP_Hawxxeye
    Legend
    3 years ago
    @emerson1975 What the article I linked earlier mentioned that BF games like 2042 do a lot of simulations for physics etc which is more CPU demanding, more cores help more in BF than many other games
  • GrizzGolf's avatar
    GrizzGolf
    Seasoned Ace
    3 years ago

    @emerson1975 wrote:

    It’s a simple cpu bottleneck and no amount of lower settings will help.You simply don’t have the cpu horse power to simulate 128 player games and push the card at the same time.


    Whats a good CPU for 128

  • @GrizzGolfAll depends on budget

    On the cheap side I would look at a ryzen 5600 or intel 12400 then on the expensive side it would be the 12900k they would all be just fine with battlefield 2042 128 player games

  • ATFGunr's avatar
    ATFGunr
    Legend
    3 years ago
    @meeha2 You’re the one who posted, don’t bite the hands of people trying to help. If you’re just posting because you’re frustrated with the game that’s cool, but be more clear that it’s rhetorical and you’re just venting.
  • @ATFGunr@ATFGunrI didn't mean to offend anybody. I just mentioned to re-read the original post because the guy recommended me to lower the graphical settings, which I already did, and mentioned about it above. If I did, I am sorry, I just wanted to clarify the situation.

    @UP_HawxxeyeI will test the settings now and will let you know UPDATE:

    OK, I ran the game, with MSI Afterburner recording my stats, and it just running, not recording. So MSI Afterburner shows that on average, I have about 35-40 FPS, and minimum was 27. The MSI Afterburner's file shows the graph, and so it's sort of hard to track everything, such as lowest score, but either way, that's... my usual gameplay FPS for Garbagefield 2042. Sorry, I just can't call it Ba... Ba... Nope, sorry, just can't. Because this game isn't Battlefield. It's glitchy, it's laggy, it has "specialists" nobody is interested in... So this is not Battlefield. Or at least, I can't call it like that. (I just have to note it, there most probably were bugs even in BF3/4 and other games, but... to some extent, 99% of them were so minor nobody paid much attention to them, because you had to have a super sharp eye to see them (once again, please excuse me if I'm wrong; for over 700 hours I spend on BF4, I may have seen a bug or two at most, which I don't remember anymore - so minor they were, so I consider it to be a pretty well made game))

  • I had an 8086k (a binned special edition 8700k, overclocked to 5ghz on all cores) and game ran terribly on it, my old 3090 was fluctuating up and down all the time, even in 64 player maps.

    I swapped everything out to a z690 platform with a 12900k, night and day different, however, BF is still CPU bound, my now 3090ti in heavy combat scenarios still is only running about 85% usage whilst a few CPU cores are getting utterly hammered.

    tl;d, Game is CPU bound, 12th gen will massively improve, but will still bottleneck modern cards (even at 4k like I am running).

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