3 years ago

Transport Nerf Talk

EA / Dice, I'm probably in the minority here (in fact I'm fairly certain) but one of my favorite things to do in the game is to fly the transports. The Super-Hind and Condor specifically. I'm extremely skilled at it and on Breakthrough (which I play almost exclusively) if one of these vehicles is available in almost certainly going to grab it.

These vehicles have seen their nerf's throughout 2042's life cycle and having experienced the game from day 1, I feel these vehicles are in a very good state at the moment 👍🏾. But I'm hearing rumblings from YouTube cry baby channels that people (the YouTube people who seem to make everything happen) are now asking for these vehicles to be reduced to having virtually no offensive capabilities (managing them from the ground is the entire purpose of Rao which is a specialist I'd be hard pressed to believe anyone has logged more hours playing than me unless shown).

These vehicles SHOULD be seen as menacing to ground forces. They SHOULD force at team to come up with a plan. To utilize the tools that the specialists have (Rao's hacking ability, Lis's TV missle, engineer Javelin's, Crawford's turret etc.... I die to transports as well. But not everything should be made easy for people playing on the ground (this is not COD).

I'm asking that you stop for a second before another round of capitulation when it comes to the people who make content and have voices loud enough that you feel they represent all of us.

Please leave the transports where they are 🙏🏾. At the very least take a pole to see how the community feels about this. Would you like to see the Hind and Condor stripped of their main gun weaponry? Do you think that the LATV should just be about transporting and shouldn't have a 30 or 50mm cannon associated with them? Please ask and base your decisions off of real community feedback as opposed to listening to a handful of people who have platforms.

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33 Replies

Tank2042Man
3 years ago
@DametheFame Count me in the "cry babies" camp.

Nerf on board repairs and either remove or severely nerf the front 50mm or grenade launcher.

I'm over transport choppers literally hunting down other vehicles.

While they are at it, nerf the MAVs firepower too.

I dominate the entire map and literally seek out all enemy armour and crush them when I have a full crew on board. That's just ridiculous, fun but dumb.
DigitalHype
Seasoned Ace
3 years ago
DICE. If you do decide to nerf this, please make sure to revist the T1 badge requirement for this vehicle. It will become significantly more difficult.
DametheFame
3 years ago
So are you telling me that the enemy armor you're hunting down is "completely helpless"? They can't activate APS? They don't have weapon systems for fighting helicopters? They got have their own crews that can either use the onboard weapon systems meant for dealing with you in the sky and the ones that don't can't hop out and shoot a javelin or M5 at you while the tank is also shooting at you? Help me understand what I'm missing here
RMEChief
Legend
3 years ago
What is your normal score at the end of a round, and your gunners?

The two basically unkillable combos:
Tanks with Irish+Blasco
Transport Helos with 2x Engineers repairing
protoman23
3 years ago
@DametheFamePeople want the Hind and the Condor to be TrAnSopOrTs aka glorified taxis so they can make the same bone headed play "pushing the objective" when in reality they're only feeding the enemy team and reducing the ticket count.

In Breakthrough specifically good Hind/Condor pilots make or break most matches. The sole reason why good pilots are able to dominate in the current state of the game is because there are no natural counters (jets) that exist in the mode anymore.

Remember back on release when the Bolte was in the light transport category, folks used to use them as mobile AA using the rockets and the 30mm cannon to take out the Hind/Condor.

I remember when the NTW was actually a powerful AV option but that was also nerfed into the ground. Even the railgun was a strong counter to the Hind/Condor, but that was also nerfed into the ground.

Breakthrough as a whole needs the vehicle slots between attackers and defenders rebalanced. The Bolte needs to go back to the light transport category. (there's more than enough tools in the game to kill the Bolte that didn't exist upon release). It has no reason to be in the same slot as the CAV Brawler and the MAV. Jets also have to be reintroduced into the game mode.

If folks don't like playing a game mode with vehicles upgrades then there's always Rush. It has stock vehicles and people tend to play them as if they're braindead anyways.
DametheFame
3 years ago
It depends. I'm super aggressive and fly in a way that I haven't seen many people fly (particularly Hind). By about halfway through a match the enemy is going to gonna get tired of me and the resistance becomes really thick. If I have an engineer yeah admittedly I can go 100 plus no death or what I refer to as a "legendary run". But with the addition of sooo many things that can kill or collectively contribute to killing hinds and condors (Lis, railgun, railtank, hacks, jav's, Crawford gun, LATV with cannon, Wildcat and they list goes on and on), my average has gone down to maybe around 60-70 assists and maybe a death mixed in
RMEChief
Legend
3 years ago
Every option should have pros and * and tradeoffs. With Transport Helos, there are very few tradeoffs.
protoman23
3 years ago
@Adamonic wrote:
Every option should have pros and * and tradeoffs. With Transport Helos, there are very few tradeoffs.
The Hind/Condor is only as good as the pilot and capable gunners. You can be the best pilot in the world, but if your gunners are trash you aren't doing much damage to the enemy team.
DametheFame
3 years ago
I disagree, but perhaps that's because I fly them far more than the average person. They are not invincible. First off having 2 engineers is EXTREMELY rare. Most people don't want to dedicate themselves to sitting in a transport seat with a repair tool for an entire match.
Even with engineers, killing a Wildcat with the proper load out is extremely difficult even for pilots with the experience that I have.
There are games when the opposing team has used combinations of LATV's, Wildcats and ground forces that had keyed in on me that it's been nearly impossible for me to be effective.
The transports are where they should be and the entire point of Breakthrough is SUPPOSED to be slightly slanted towards the attacking team with vehicles. It's being a defending team that's up against stacked odds and overcoming.
But I play Rao and keep vehicles in check on Breakthrough Defense and my teams tend to hold so 🤷🏾‍♂️
DametheFame
3 years ago
Precisely. If people aren't hitting their shots I can dodge 30 Lis rockets in a round and it won't make a bit of difference for the team