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GoonerB's avatar
GoonerB
2 years ago

Re: PS5 unfair gameplay with higher ping

I hope nobody is suggesting that anyone with stable Internet and low latency be punished to accommodate people who don't, or for people that use unstable wifi?

There's reasons why Fifa/EAFC games react differently to latency, when compared to games like COD. It's been covered in articles over the years quite a few times.

EA already have network smoothing, but that ends up punishing people with better connections, which at least in my opinion shouldn't be implemented.

50ms isn't even that high, and anything under 60/70ms is more than playable. 20-30ms delay is not going to be the difference between being great or struggling hard. People need to learn to play within their connection limit, or look at ways to lower their ping.

Avoiding WiFi entirely is a good start.

Let not punish the majority of players because the minority chose to use wifi, or are unfortunate when it comes to their location. The only remotely 'fair' way would be to match people with poor pings against other people with poor pings. It's not going to make the game play any better for those people, but it will mean people with better connections aren't punished and I suppose levels the playing field for people with high latency connections and/or shared WiFi. 

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  • scumbagshawty's avatar
    scumbagshawty
    2 years ago
    @GoonerB This simply isn’t true. The gameplay is noticeably sluggish. I always play matches between 20-50 ping at different locations. Most of the matches I’ve played on the last 2 editions have been between 20-35. It affects everything from dribbling, passing, shooting, and tackling. You’re flat out wrong.

    More so this year than last year, I rarely get games that feel right. It’s so rare that I immediately notice the difference. Unfortunately, most times I do it’s only at either the start of the match or end of the match.
  • Oldman_Sparky_YT's avatar
    Oldman_Sparky_YT
    Seasoned Veteran
    2 years ago

    It’s not true, I play on a hardwired connection, 500 up and down. And every game I play I get connection issues with sluggish game play, especially when being the away side.

    it should always be better for players on low ping, and stop accommodating people thinking they are so good being gifted wins with bad servers accommodating these high ping WiFi players. Don’t get it on any other game that I can recall

  • GoonerB's avatar
    GoonerB
    2 years ago
    @scumbagshawty
    I wrote 5 paragraphs, and made a few different points, so I'm unsure what exactly "simply isn't true" & what am I "flat out wrong" about?
    Your response doesn't really seem to be talking about the same points the OP (or my reply) is, so it doesn't really help me figure out how any of it relates to what I wrote.

    The OP is discussing the fairness and competitiveness of playing people with different pings - as is my reply.

    You seem to be talking about general input response.

    Anyhow, your pings are similar to mine, in fact slightly lower. I generally have pings around 35ms at the low end and 50ms at the high end, & I have absolutely no issues controlling what I do, nor even think about what ping my opponent has. It's a non factor. Them having a ping that is 15ms quicker than mine isn't going to decide the outcome of the match. It's such a miniscule amount of time.
    It's not until it reaches towards 100ms that it's even really noticable in anyway, and even then it's not too hard to adjust to cope with the tiny amount of extra delay.

  • scumbagshawty's avatar
    scumbagshawty
    2 years ago
    @GoonerB You claiming ping isn’t making a difference in gameplay isn’t true. It’s pretty self explanatory in my post. I don’t understand the confusion.
  • GoonerB's avatar
    GoonerB
    2 years ago

    @scumbagshawty
    Well, that's certainly your opinion from your post, yes.
    It's not what I said though - I didn't generalise and say it doesn't effect game play at all - and that part of the post was one of a few different points I made, so I imagine you giving a blanket statement such as "you're wrong" in response to multiple points is probably where the confusion began.

    I said "50ms isn't even that high, and anything under 60/70ms is more than playable. 20-30ms delay is not going to be the difference between being great or struggling hard".

    I didn't say it isn't making any difference. It will of course effect game play slightly, but we are talking such small amounts that it really shouldn't be making a massive difference, especially with pings 50ms and below. A human can't even react to anything remotely close to 50ms.

    At least that's my experience, and my opinion. You are more than entitled to your own, and you don't have to agree with me, however my experience and opinion are not "flat wrong".

  • luxiqq_ua's avatar
    luxiqq_ua
    2 years ago

    If we play via LAN or from one console, I will beat you 10 times out of 10, but when you are 10,000 kilometers away and there are no normal servers and plus ping 40 and above, I can't do anything

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