Re: [Megathread] Pathfinder Changes Feedback

Your post can be described as blq,blq,blq,blq,blq, this guy have great arguments and i just can`t oppose them. :D

Yeah grapple is fine as it is. Just learn how to use it and git gud.

No more spam in and out.

He is still picked high, and still good Pathfinder are doing great i don`t see a reason for a change. 20 secs CD will be a joke.

lmao you have no arguments, your posts are more of a joke than a 20s grapple CD 😂😂

Its obvious which ones post are a joke. 20% pick rate was definitely a joke i agree with that. To be able to move in and out with completely spammable ability was a joke.

There is plenty of posts here that explain what was wrong and how he is perfectly fine as it now.

Pro tournaments shows it, his pickrate shows that he is perfectly fine. Just git gud.

So you can continue with your rant, you won`t get more attention from me. :D

Neither his passive, neither his zipline was the problem of Pathfinder, it was his grapple. There was million complains for it.

Pathfinder grapple CD begins the moment his grapple touch the ground, not when he land on the ground, which means his CD will be even lower, when he land on the desired destination. It was completely spammable ability, that allows him to use it multiple times during a fight. 
To graple over you, to do significantly damage and when he needs to heal to just grapple out. 
It was the same when you was trying to run out of Pathfinder, it was mission impossible, same as chasing Pathfinder.

Next time read the patch notes and what the Devs said about Pathfinder and why they nerf his CD.

It was the best thing to do, they did not nerf any of his ability, they just higher the CD, which was ridiculous low. Now you have to use it with brain

And people like you(maybe even you) were saying he will be dead and no one will use him, yet he is still the second most picked Legend, but his pickrate hit a ground, and gets lower with like 10%, which means that he is still very solid, but they reduced the players that were just abusing a broken ability with low CD. The moment they couldn`t rely all on it, they just changed.

Most top players are still using it.

And he is still used, not only because of his passive and his zipline(i don`t need anyone esp. you to tell me for what he is used, cause i watch most of the tournaments, and i know for what reason every legend is picked and used), but because of his kit as whole.

Third smallest hitbox, that has weird animation, he got a complete kit with a self ability that can be used to push behind opponent, that can be used as escape mechanism, that can be used to reposition yourself and/or get a high ground when its needed. For his team utility, aka his passive for the ring scan and his zipline, which is incredible useful.

They tho not liked the way some of the last zone was playing out with Pathfinder jump forth and back on the zipline, and thats why they nerf it.

But they need to do something on Caustic ulty and gas, cause now this is a big problem in the last ring, and the only counter is to be another Caustic ...

Maybe Path needs a buff, but it doesn`t need a buff to his grapple CD, maybe a buff for his passive, because its not that useful in pubs.

But his pickrate in pubs, ranked, scrim, tournaments shows that he is in a perfect spot right now.

@SplashDatex I dislike the nerf since it makes Pathfinder less fun but it seems good in terms of balance. While some players may like his high mobility he was a problem due to his ability to chase down or escape enemies with minimal risk.

I'm fine with returning his high mobility if he can be more easily punished for a bad push. Until then he can live with a 30+ second grapple.

Its completely untrue that only the newbies were complaining about Pathyfinder grapple CD. It was a massive problem.
I can said i watch plenty of pros, and in 99,99% of the time if the Pathfinder knows how to grapple, almost no one can shoot him, because of the weird animation and angle during his graple.

Yeah its sounds drastic from 15 to 35 seconds, but the reason for that is, they let him stay insanely strong for way too long, while Wraith was constantly nerfed for example, esp her tactical.

The time for this game being around 2 legends - aka Pathfinder and Wraith and everyone else is over.

Don`t think i agree with everything Respawn is doing, this is not true. But when they do something right, they do it. The best way to fix Pathfinder OPness was exactly his grapple.

20 or 25 seconds wouldn`t change anything.

His grapple is multifunctional ability, can be used for so many different things and thats why is that strong. You can reposition during a fight, run from it, if enemies are under cover to literally surprise them with a grapple above them and land behind them, you can take high ground(which is a big + in a fight) and so much more.

I think they did the right thing by nerfinh his CD.

Anything of your suggestion would have been worst in my eyes. 

Tho his hitbox is tiny and its weird, but i think its okay as it is(his head is nonexistent, which is a big + tho), but i very rarely have a problem to land my shots on Pathy. Tho i see some of the pro players that complain sometimes about his hitbox. FunFPs is one of them, he was hating hard on it at one point. :D

If you think i`m lying okay. As far as the videos i`m not watching 10 minutes highlites, where you actually can`t learn anything from.

I`m watching Pros whole streames, which are 6+ hours every single days. FunFPS often streams for 10+ hours.

Also after a certain amount of time, the video is deleted, so how can i get the exact same stream i watch, and find the exact time on it 

I don`t care if you think i`m lying or not, i`m watching pro streamers, its my routine and im trying to learn as much as possible. Sometimes i watch it just for fun. 

In of his streams he was getting mad exactly about Pathy hitbox and its not a isolated case.

There is others pros that also complain about Pathy hitbox in their streams.

Anyway we stretch this too far i said what i think of.

Path was never broken. His tactical is easy to * up even for experienced Path mains and you got punished plenty even with the 15 second. The grapple will hit things 1 ft away from you instead of the 20ft incline you were aiming for.. Even if you make the grapple you don't always land where you expect.

My first game after the update I flung myself onto a secluded ledge on the edge of the map and had to watch my team die in less 30 seconds. if you don't main path, you don't know wtf you are talking about.

They didn't kill path. they killed Apex. at least for me and im sure many other path mains that don't play anymore. Not mad, just dont play it now.. Probably got a good 500 hours out of a free game so i cant complain.. other than they did the update right after the season i payed for..

Maybe see you next season. Definitely not if a fast paced shooter comes out that doesn't need to rely on fad gimmicks like "legends or heros" or "pop ur ult dood! r we playing league of legends or an FPS?"

Learn to lead your shots on fast moving targets you shlebs. I miss Tribes 2 on my windows 98..