Forum Discussion

simsplayer818's avatar
simsplayer818
Hero
3 years ago

Re: Party and Aspiration Goals Require Non-Vegetarian Meals From Vegetarian Sims

This is a really good point. I've noticed this too. If my Vegetarian Sim has hit Call to Meal at a dinner party on meat based dishes I quickly cancel the action for them to eat a plate of meat based food themselves while the guests eat it. I do the same when they have to roast beetles on a campfire for the Outdoor Enthusiast Aspiration, I try and quickly cancel the action before they eat a barbecued bug in fact I do this anyway whether they eat food with a face or if they don't. I mean, it's bugs so ick, why would you?

So it would be good if these aspirations were amended for meat free Sims.

I also notice when getting food together at festivals, like the Spice Festival where you get food from the buffet table Vegetarian friends eat the meat dishes and become unwell.

On the point of Vegan Sims, you can still create them but without giving them the official trait. I set myself the challenge of creating a Freegan Vegan Sim on a Simple Living lot. He started his farm from produce he'd harvested or found by collecting. He started out as a Plantsim. He has a little bee rescue and cares for them without taking their products. It made an enjoyable challenge but I had to keep reminding myself he was a Vegan without the trait to remind me.

3 Replies

  • SleepyMaya's avatar
    SleepyMaya
    3 years ago

    @simsplayer818Yeah I cancel them too when I have to make them (I don't do call to meal on them either, I try to make them and throw them away and then make a vegetarian meal for the sims to actually eat at the party), though sometimes I don't get it in time, like with the beetles.

    Even if you are not required to actually eat them though, in my opinion it's still missing the point if vegetarian sims are required to make those meals to begin with. In many (possibly most) cases people are vegetarian because it's against their ideology to harm animals like that and that for many people applies to paying for it and making it too, not just eating it (for example in my home in real life there is no way in the world meat will even enter the house, no matter who the guests are), but on sims even if everyone in the household are set to vegetarian, they are still forced to cook animals or else they can't get gold at the party/can't finish the aspiration.
    I think this could very easily be solved if the requirement was just changed to allow the alternatives too, since all of the meat meals required in those parties seem to already have plant based versions too from what I've seen, but when I tried those they didn't complete the goal.

    Also yeah if you watch out every time they eat you can make sure they stay vegan, I always tried to do that with my sims before they added the vegetarian trait, though what I really like about the trait is that they can also be trusted to make food on their own and they still won't eat meat, while if you do it manually without the trait you can't trust them to pick their own meals.

  • simsplayer818's avatar
    simsplayer818
    Hero
    3 years ago
    @SleepyMaya Yes I agree it absolutely should be looked at, I'm a bit surprised it hasn't been.
    I think bugs have a part to play in my game as my party guests won't eat unless I tell them too. I usually make a load of food beforehand as well but they all ignore it. I then have to click on different plates to get them to eat, it gets a bit complicated.
    I'm not a vegan or vegetarian myself ( I have swapped a lot out for vegan/veggie substitutes and have designated meat free days) so it's meant researching vegan meals, etc to have a vegan Sim. Since the game isn't yet adapted to let you know what a vegan Sim can or will eat. But it's something I like to do, create a Sim with different requirements or from a different culture or background and then research how to make them as authentic as I can. A lot of what I needed to know I learned from an amazing Australian chef named Shannon Martinez and it was a challenge she set on MasterChef Australia that inspired me to create a vegan Sim. I wrestled with the avocado tree at my Vegan Sims garden centre, I kind of wish I hadn't researched avocado production because I'm very fond of bees and the pollination sounds truly horrendous. That's where I got the idea for a Sims bee rescue. I kept the avocado tree for customers but he doesn't eat them and they are on a different lot to the bees. He also doesn't get bees or rabbits to help with gardening/pollination. He sells meat free products and substitutes he makes himself in his garden centre.
  • daikoyu's avatar
    daikoyu
    Seasoned Ace
    3 years ago

    A vegan sim to play is ... not easy. I tried it and gave my sims vegetarian and lactose intolerant trait but this are two traits for a lifestyle/dietary. I remember the one time which I visit one of my vegan sim and she goes straight to the fridge and grabbed a dish with cheese/milk in it. After this I had enough. I don’t sacrifice two traits’ slots just because they still grab things which they don’t should! She became a vampire and life now from plasmafruit and the blood of her soulmate which is a vampire too (I use a mod for it).

    I just pretend all meat dishes are vegan and all animals are happy in sims4, no factory farming allowed + All fish are plastic fish, so somebody need to take care of this filthy things. Generally, I think the team forget often that we have a vegetarian trait. In snowy escape we don’t have one dishes which is vegetarian safe for the hot pot. Its much easier just to pretend all is vegan/vegetarian friendly.

    OT:

    Spoiler
    I life since a while vegan and it got a lot easier to find something to eat, specially the last 5 years was a push in plant-based products. Now you find almost every time a vegan dish options in restaurants, which is truly nice. Although I read in America company’s try again to put milk and eggs in plant-based products. I don’t need to understand this or? I am just happy that I life in a country which they don’t try this stupid thing and product general are label as vegan + plant based. (Although I have still the habit to read which ingredients are used). I truly happy for this change, before it was a challenge to find vegan shoes, belt or generally clothing/products which don’t use animal products.

About The Sims 4 Gameplay Questions & Issues

Get help and answers to your gameplay questions and issues in The Sims 4.19,318 PostsLatest Activity: 10 minutes ago