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Re: Please EA nerf the 911 RSR

The Porsche 911 Carrera RSR has been overpowered since Need For Speed 2015 (Need For Speed Reboot), so about 4 years now.

In fact, this car has been buffed in NFS Heat by the devs. lol

It seems Ghost Games is very biased with making this 911 Carrera RSR OP as possible. 😃

This car definitely needs nerfing.

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  • RSR isn't even the most broken car in the game 😃 there's something even faster with better handling

  • BLVD69's avatar
    BLVD69
    6 years ago

    @TheRealJony 

    You stated the following words >>> 

    "The Porsche 911 Carrera RSR has been overpowered since Need For Speed 2015 (Need For Speed Reboot), so about 4 years now.

    In fact, this car has been buffed in NFS Heat by the devs". lol

    My Reply

    Try since NFS World Online back in 2010 to 2015 when the game use to be online free to play game.

    The 911 was an advantage car in the "A class" and the "S class" events in that particular game.

    Some new people took over that game and renamed it Soapbox Race world now.

    Have a good day. 

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    6 years ago

    @BLVD69 wrote:

    My Reply

    Try since NFS World Online back in 2010 to 2015 when the game use to be online free to play game.

    The 911 was an advantage car in the "A class" and the "S class" events in that particular game.

    Some new people took over that game and renamed it Soapbox Race world now.

    Have a good day. 


    I remember that. The Porsche 911 GT3 RS was the Tier 3 ultimate pay2win car when it released on August 2011 and continued to be a ultimate pay2win car upon Car Classes update until the McLaren F1 Elite Edition was released.

    The Porsche 911 GT2 (997) was also a Tier 3 pay2win car and continued to be a ultimate pay2win car upon Car Classes update.

    Due to its pay2win aspect, NFS World was a trash game.

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    6 years ago

    @speedracer523 wrote:

    mainly, it was just that they had cosmic nos and didn't handle like boats


    That's still an advantage pay2win players get that free players cannot get.

    Most of the In-Game Cash cars were not very competitive in their respective Tiers / Classes, meaning people had to pay real money for cars with cosmic nitrous and cars that didn't handle like boats to win races properly.

    Not to mention Class S, the ultimate pay2win class, had the three ultimate pay2win cars (McLaren F1 Elite Edition, Pagani Zonda Cinque, and Koenigsegg Agera) which were better than any other Class S In-Game Cash car in every way possible.

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    ZeroMcDol
    6 years ago

    There were still cars that were op for cash in World

    - MR2

    - Eclipse

    Well, at least 2 that I can currently think of that had cosmic nos. 

    The biggest issue with World, tho, was the biggest issue with most online racing games, cheaters using third-party programs to gain a unfair advantage.  Ruined the game, at least for me.

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    6 years ago

    @ZeroMcDol wrote:

    There were still cars that were op for cash in World

    - MR2


    Toyota MR2 was never made In-Game Cash until the game was actually shutting down.

    So this car was a pay2win car for Tier 1 and for Class D, C, and B upon Car Classes update.


    ZeroMcDol wrote:

    - M1 Procar


    At its time of release in 2012, the BMW M1 Procar was one of the top Tier 3 pay2win cars. Slower than Porsche 911 GT3 RS, but faster than Lamborghini Murcielago LP640 and BMW M3 GTR (E46).

    Then once Car Classes came and the three ultimate Class S cars I mentioned above were released, the BMW M1 Procar was powercrept and became irrelevant.

    As it was irrelevant, the car became In-Game Cash in 2014. But it's not fast enough to compete against the three ultimate Class S cars (Keep in mind I'm talking about same skill level players with different cars)


    ZeroMcDol wrote:

    The biggest issue with World, tho, was the biggest issue with most online racing games, cheaters using third-party programs to gain a unfair advantage.  Ruined the game, at least for me.


    Yes, all online games have everlasting cheating issue. (Unless the game is dead like The Crew 1 and 2, which cheaters don't even bother to cheat in PvP in those games lol)

    Cheating in NFS World was minimal in its early years, but worsened in its later years.

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    ZeroMcDol
    6 years ago

    @TheRealJony 

    Yep, you are absolutely right.  It's been 5 years since I played, so I forgot what was igc and what was P2W.

    Whisper:  I meant to put the Eclipse  and edited my post.

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    6 years ago

    @ZeroMcDol wrote:

    It's been 5 years since I played, so I forgot what was igc and what was P2W.


    It's perfectly natural to forget these things. I would be mind-blown if you actually did remember things about NFS World. lol


    ZeroMcDol wrote:

    Eclipse


    The Mitsubishi Eclipse Elite Edition was a Tier 1 pay2win car and it remained as a pay2win car for both Class C and Class B upon Car Classes update.

    This car was so OP that it could take on numerous Class A and Class S In-Game Cash cars, even at Class B at 599 Overall. Thanks to its overpowered nitrous output.

    The regular Mitsubishi Eclipse was also a pay2win car for Class D upon its release.

    Although it did become In-Game Cash car in January 2015 (which was a very good thing), it became IGC too late.

  • @BLVD69 Other than NFS World,HP2010 also had P2W cars like Veyron SS/Diablo SV in Hyper/Exotic class,The Run had Agera R/HPE Venom GT with their OP speed.Venom returned again as P2W in MW2012 still for OP speed and handling.At least 2015/Payback didn't have OP DLC cars since the "King Of Ghost" OP 73 911 Carrera RSR 2.8 is standard in 2015 PB and HEAT
  • Thing is, back than I did buy some speedboost to buy things.

    There was one time 50,000 SB was for like 6 AUD, but I didn't have payment method at the time so I didn't get any.

    And when I got my prepaid phone, I used the credit to buy speedboost each month (I think I got the MR2 as a gift?) till I finally got an aventador and then mclaren F1 maybe less than 1 year till the servers would be shutdown?



    The other big problem was just how the collision physics worked. Often you'd get rammed to **** and be unable to catch up, because for some reason, it mostly works in there flavour.

    (Mind you, I was playing from australia using ADSL, so my ping wasn't the best...).

    I think I had the elite eclipse, but I don't have screenshots of it, at least not on my laptop...


    My almost maxed Aventador a short while before they closed the servers (Also had an F1 at 840)




    (I did beat a C class Supra with a 'boat' Eclipse GT, also in C class, and there was this time I came 0.39 seconds behind an A 711 LP650-4 Roadster with my B 597 MR2 in a 10 second drag race - I did 10.88.)


    So yeah, it was a bit P2W, but what free to play game isn't?

    PS: Was it only mid 2015? Gosh it felt like forever ago...

    Point is, there was still a good mix of cars that were competitive and not super expensive. 

    And I've driven the RSR in Heat, it's really nothing special, at least with how I build my cars (but I've tested different setups, and there are certainly other cars that are better).

    Right now, it's just speedlists and time trials, hardly anything in terms of PvP. It's not just money, but also Skill, and the people who pour money into things are also the same type to pour in time to refine and stuff.

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    BLVD69
    6 years ago

    @TheRealJony 

    Also, you know the worst part of NFS World Online as a Leader and operator of my large crew in that game was I spent $4000 real cash to keep my crew in top p2w Cars. 

    The F1 and Zonda Cinque are both S-class in World. They cost $60.00. Each to buy. That was without the max parts too make the car top end. 

    Spending crazy amounts of cash on monthly or Holiday speed boost car packages ran my bill up fast. 

    Thankfully it got all paid off over to time on my Credit Card...LoL 😂

    Have a great day. 

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    BLVD69
    6 years ago

    @ZeroMcDol 

    Your right NFS World Online had multiple Cheaters and Hackers in the game. It truly ruined the fun for many folks. The new version of that game online now is Soapbox Race World has the same cheater problem in the listed poir server below. 

    This new version requires players to use Discord and join one to five different servers for the game. 

    Some of the best servers are NR -Night Ryderz sever.

    For the worst server in Soapbox everyone should avoid the toxic "World Online PL" Server in Soapbox Race World game. 

    The owners of that particular one like to ban players even for joking around in chat. So it's best to avoid that server. LOL 😂

    Have a great day. 

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    6 years ago

    @speedracer523 wrote:

    Thing is, back than I did buy some speedboost to buy things.

    There was one time 50,000 SB was for like 6 AUD, but I didn't have payment method at the time so I didn't get any.

    And when I got my prepaid phone, I used the credit to buy speedboost each month (I think I got the MR2 as a gift?) till I finally got an aventador and then mclaren F1 maybe less than 1 year till the servers would be shutdown?


    Ouch.

    R.I.P. real money.


    speedracer523 wrote:

    TThe other big problem was just how the collision physics worked. Often you'd get rammed to **** and be unable to catch up, because for some reason, it mostly works in there flavour.


    It depends on how much pressure you're being pushed upon colliding.

    Someone going at high speed with the intention of ramming will push you so much while someone going at high speed with no intention of ramming will only push you slightly (with minor taps to your cars by accident).

    Collisions are intensified when someone has Juggernaut powerup active.

    A player with Juggernaut active will always win a ram fight against a player with no Juggernaut active.

    Unpopular opinion, but I found ramming in NFS World really fun back in the day. lol

    Once the game became pay2win with the Lamborghini Murcielago LP640 in March 2011, I couldn't take the game seriously anymore and started ramming in Multiplayer races. XD

    I couldn't compete against people with pay2win cars when driving my In-Game Cash cars (and this worsened in later years), so I created my own kind of fun. 😉

    The collisions in The Crew 1 are a lot worse than NFS World.

    It's pretty much the same as NFS World's, but there is a chance of spinning out someone upon rear-ending an opponent in The Crew 1.


    speedracer523 wrote:

    My almost maxed Aventador a short while before they closed the servers (Also had an F1 at 840)


    Nice cars.

    R.I.P. Aventador and F1.


    speedracer523 wrote:

    So yeah, it was a bit P2W, but what free to play game isn't?


    "A bit pay2win" is an understatement. lol

    Fortnite is a free-to-play game that's not pay2win and it's doing really well cobsidering how popular it is and the amount of people playing it.


    speedracer523 wrote:

    PS: Was it only mid 2015? Gosh it felt like forever ago...


    Yea, time is slipping away... 😮


    speedracer523 wrote:

    Point is, there was still a good mix of cars that were competitive and not super expensive.


    That doesn't excuse the fact that people with McLaren F1 Elite Edition, Pagani Zonda Cinque, and Koenigsegg Agera will win majority of the races.

    Taking different skill levels out of the equation (meaning same skill levels), let's take two players. One is driving a Porsche 911 GT3 RS and the other is driving a McLaren F1 Elite Edition.

    The player driving the McLaren F1 Elite Edition will win the races, simply because their car is better than their opponent's in every way possible.

    Add to the fact that the McLaren F1 Elite Edition remained as the ultimate pay2win car until 1 month before game's shut down.


    @BLVD69 wrote:

    TheRealJony 

    Also, you know the worst part of NFS World Online as a Leader and operator of my large crew in that game was I spent $4000 real cash to keep my crew in top p2w Cars. 

    The F1 and Zonda Cinque are both S-class in World. They cost $60.00. Each to buy. That was without the max parts too make the car top end. 

    Spending crazy amounts of cash on monthly or Holiday speed boost car packages ran my bill up fast. 

    Thankfully it got all paid off over to time on my Credit Card...LoL 😂

    Have a great day. 


    I remember you said you spent $4000 real money in NFS World back then.

    Which blows my mind. lol

    Ouch.

    R.I.P. real money.

    For your sake, I hope you avoid NFS No Limits as that game is even more pay2win than NFS World. The grind in that game is insane!


    BLVD69 wrote:

    Some of the best servers are NR -Night Ryderz sever.

    For the worst server in Soapbox everyone should avoid the toxic "World Online PL" Server in Soapbox Race World game. 


    To be fair, all NFS World Private servers are dead. None of them have had 500 players playing concurrently.

    I have heard stories about World Online PL server, although it is the server that has the most players playing.

    I have an account in World Online PL server, but I didn't play for two months. The game is just boring as heck.

    I made a couple of friends in World Online PL server, but left them all behind. They are probably still playing right now! lol XD

    Also Apex server and WOPL server are merging together, and that means all progress (cars and achievements) in Apex and WOPL will be wiped and lost.

    Which deters me from continuing playing in these servers.

  • @BLVD69 

    I pretty much left NFS World when the servers shutdown.  I've seen Soapbox Racing World, but decided to ignore it.  It's great that they have the online feature working again, but the cheating problem grinds any desire to revisit the game to a halt, as I'm sure there's at least a couple cheaters in all the servers.

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    BLVD69
    6 years ago

    @TheRealJony 

    I will take your good advice and avoid No Limits game. 

    The last thing I want in any game is to spend real Cash!  LOL 😂

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    BLVD69
    6 years ago

    @ZeroMcDol 

    I fully understand and agree. 

    Soapbox Race World still has cheaters in all the servers. 

    Sadly many of the top Admins in Discord are the same. 

    There seems to be a lot of personal bias towards players who use power ups in races.  

    I personally like power ups in races. 

    Well take care and have a great day. 😁

  • TBH, I did suck a bit with driving...

    Even with those cars, I didn't win that much...

    But it was mostly 'free' money - credit that would otherwise be gone at the end of a month

    as for fortnight, that's basically all skill... 

    anyway, I feel like this had been derailed enough as it is...




  • CallumFaulkner's avatar
    CallumFaulkner
    6 years ago

    Hate to necro an old thread, but what car do you think is better than the RSR? I’m enjoying tinkering with different cars and would like to check out the one you’re talking about!

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    GDUBZ1
    6 years ago

    @TheRealJonyPay to win doesnt make a game a trash game. NFSWorld is what every racing game in the future should model off of. And its what heat is based off. Open World Online racing game. heat needs to add more multiplayer and speed list to catch up to where world was. I wont touch a racing game without free roam open world these days.

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    @GDUBZ1 wrote:

    Pay to win doesnt make a game a trash game.


    This is very laughable. lmao XD

    Back in the day, Class S was the most pay2win class in the game. With the Pagani Zonda Cinque, Koenigsegg Agera, and especially McLaren F1 Elite Editions dominating the lobbies.

    Keep in mind that these three aforementioned cars were never made available for In-Game Cash before the announcement of the game permanently shutting down.

    Free players only had the Porsche 911 GT3 RS 3.8 and Lamborghini Reventon at their disposal.

    Let's say two players (one free player and one paid player) have similar driving skills, just to put different driving skills aside.

    Free player drives the 911 GT3 RS. Paid player drives the F1 Elite Edition.

    The paid player will always win the races. Their F1 is just so much better than the free player's 911 GT3 RS.

    Good luck trying to win a race against a F1 Elite by a pay2win player that can actually drive back in the day.

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