Community ManagerHDMI cables can absolutely affect input delay. Especially if you're on PS5/Xbox Series S or X and are using an older cable instead of the one that came with your system. As far as the rest of your post goes, since you don't agree with my answers, I'll move on from this conversation.
HDMI affects input delay, yes, for my own controled player, but not for the not reacting cpu. Thats the case! How do you explan the HDMI cable affects the CPU? OMG … stupid again
We played EASHL with our Team last night and ALL!!! players of our team had terrible lag. We came from total diffrent locations in Germany and Austria so we have all a bad network or the wrong HDMI and network cables? Come on … there is a major problem in the game or an your end.
Was 10-2-0 in HUT champions, took me 4 games until I got my 11th win because I had the pleasure to play against Czechs und Slovakian players. Just a small selection of the fun I had:
There were plenty of other fat man lag examples (AI player stopping behind the opposite blueline so that I am offside, player missing wide open net, Koskinen letting in one soft goal other another etc.) but as it's useless to send video to EA I didn't record more.
This had nothing to do with my Ethernet cable, nothing to do with my router, nothing to do with my HDMI cable, nothing to do with my Monitor/TV (tried both) and the game mode. That's your game EA and your netcode!
Take a look at this article by 343 Industries on Halo Infinite and their "desync" problem. If you go to Halo Waypoint then Halo Infinite Forum category the first thread you'll see is an update on Geofiltering and Latency. Practically the same issue we face on NHL. What feels like us skating in mud is like shots not registering or melee not registering on Halo Infinite. It shows the incompetence of EA in an investigative matter. It didn't take long for 343 to figure out the issue there. Both games run on a dedicated server. I just played a guy from Sweden and the input lag was terrible. Clearly he had the advantage because he the game server for our game was catered to his region. It's ridiculous how EA created 4 separate communities and unable to implement cross platform for people to play people closer to their geographic region. BRING BACK P2P CONNECTION and you might not have so much people complaining about this game.
Community ManagerNone of these would be connection-related. It would be good to see the Hedman one pulled out more and from a better angle. If he happens to be touching another player, that can prevent the puck from being picked up. The one with the puck launching into the air obviously looks like it shouldn't happen. The lack of movement on the faceoff is odd as well. Thanks for reporting these.
Another prime example for the lag is this video. It happens a lot in the lag games. If you press the switch player button on defense you will not get the player you expect that is the nearest to the puck, cause the game is behind what happens in realtime. And I have not pressed last man back! At timecode 0:20 i controlled Player No1 and want to switch to Player No.6 who is clearly nearest to the puck but instead the game decides to switch to player No.25. What happens? I want to check with player 6 but insted I drove Player 25 out of position and get a goal against me.
That happens a lot that I get the wrong player that leads to many goals against, trippings and interference calls.
I haven't touched base on this forum in a while, but I figured this "Input Lag" thread would still be hot at the top of the list.
Isn't it crazy how this thread started right about when the game came out back in October, and after over 500 replies and 5 months of back-n-forth EA still doesn't have an answer to the problems that people are having, not to mention the years before this where the same problems have existed but never resolved?
I can't wait until NHL 23 comes out so I have something new to complain about...haha, NOT!!
Community ManagerFriendly games will move to peer to peer. Definitely let us know if you see a difference. You may see an improvement if you're connecting to someone closer to you than playing someone on your closest dedicated server.
Friendly means exhibition game, so people in GWC can play against specific people, doesn't help with rivals or champs.
Also, just because you connect to the closest server doesn't mean that the people you play have that server as their endpoint. I have dumaOs and I see that I connect to AWS east server in VA about 300 miles from me. I play a guy outside Pittsburgh who is about 180 miles away from the Colombus server and 230 miles from Virginia server. We chatted and it turns out I have better internet than him averaging 950 dl, 450 ul and my in game ping shows 15 even though router software shows 30-40 ping and 45ish server tick rate. His ping was 30 and he has 250 dl/50 ul.
I notice a lag that everyone has mentioned here, players slow to react, players slow to switch, etc. and I barely beat him.
AWS has a bunch of edge servers:
Edge locations: Washington, DC (11); Chicago, IL (11); New York, NY (10); Atlanta, GA (8); Los Angeles, CA (7); Miami, FL (7); Dallas-Fort Worth, TX 👿; Houston, TX (4); San Francisco, CA (4); Boston, MA 🏀; Denver, CO 🏀; Portland, OR 🏀; Seattle, WA 🏀; Toronto, Canada 🏀; Minneapolis, MN 🏈; Phoenix, AZ 🏈; Querétaro, Mexico 🏈; Montréal, Canada 🏈; Philadelphia, PA ⚽; Salt Lake City, UT ⚽; Vancouver, Canada ⚽
Regional Edge caches: California; Ohio; Oregon; Virginia
This connection issue is not going to go away for us, and with cross platform it is only going to get worse.
If you are lucky enough to live in a specific location, congratulations, you will be able to enjoy this game at a high level and if not, play something else.
On xbox1, first season of EASHL, my team won the 3s elite playoffs and we were ranked 1,2, and 3 respectively at one point in individual ranking points.
The only teams we had problems with were 1 or 2 teams from out west and 2 or 3 teams that were based in quebec. This isn't a coincidence.
In Hut within one month of playing, I started to win 13-15 games in Champs, but the last 5 games always was a person in Quebec, DC, NE USA, and I always noticed delay.
Again, this isn't a coincidence.
The best players in this game have not just elite skills but elite connections and proximity to server/AWS datacenter that gives them an advantage.
This is networking 101, the problem is that the population that plays this game isn't big enough and EA matchmaking not good enough to allow us to connect to people who live around us.
I live 60 miles east of NYC, and the NYC tri-state area has about 24 million people which is like 6 percent of the USA population yet I get matched with people in Quebec and Pittsburgh...makes no sense.
This video shows the lag and how big it is. It's from sunday in HUT Champs. I will uploade the complete game to make the shown ping visible and that you will see the sequence from the right game. I have shown the single frames from contoller input to the reactiontime in the game. It's 12 frames delayed. The video is recorded with 29 frames per second. I can send the original video too for all who are intrested (hopefully EA haha). 12/29 frames makes a real delay of 414 ms!!! Not the shown 6 to 10 ms in the EA connetion graph.
Here the video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X5JsqsP4YWk
Here the whole game (it currently is in upload phase):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cbC3WwpcnpM
@niccolo91So I followed a lot of what you were saying there, but tick rate isn't something I'm familiar with.
I am curious though about why so many people say "I ONLY have problems with this game." I am one of those people who only have problems with this game. You have any reasons why this seems to be the case for so many players?
For example, not once has my daughter complained about having these stupid EA issues on any of her games, and she's the typical COD, Battlefield, Fortnite, player...you know, other games that test your twitch skills just like this one. She doesn't play sports games at all, but twitch is twitch right?
Also, would you say this is purely a location problem, like if I was able to switch ISPs would I still have the same problems? Is it an ISP problem? Or would you say it's more a problem with the servers that EA uses in their NHL games?
It just seems really odd that these problems SEEM to have magically shown up when EA built a new game "from the ground up" in NHL 15 for the new PS4, XB1 consoles that came out. That losing tradition has made its way into the PS5 and XBSX as well and it's so frustrating because nobody else makes a competing game.
