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Controller and mouse should never be put up against one another. Of course people would fight and not agree. That's common sense.
Cross play should just be disabled, permanently. Then everyone wins. Mostly everyone anyway, but who cares? lol
Also, remember, for a console player to join your lobby requires a PC player to invite him. So the whole thing is entirely about PC players crying about a problem they themselves create. Think about that for a moment. Stop inviting your console friends - problem solved.
- Anonymous4 years ago
@Sand_spitter
My discussion is about the "option" to play on mouse & keyboard only servers, and not directly about cross-play. That is if mouse & keyboard players choose to use it, still, it should be up to them being the PC ecosystem.
Also, it seems you might be misinformed about cross-play that features gameplay with PC and consoles together. There are games for both consoles and/ or PC players that don't offer aim assistance for the controller users.
1) Tom Clancy's Siege doesn't have any aim assistance while playing versus real players for both PC and consoles.
2) Player Unknown Battlegrounds doesn't have aim assist at all on consoles and/ or PC.
3) Overwatch disables aim assist for all controller users while in PC lobbies.
4) Valorant doesn't support controllers and/ or cross-play, but there are some high level players that play with controllers at high levels.
This debate about aim assist isn't actually about aim assist in my opinion.
I honestly think most controller players who say aim assist is fine have
A) Never used mouse & keyboard themselves
B) Make the argument that aim assist isn't that powerful because they purcahsed a expserive controller, and don't want that purchase to become useless.
C) Never have played in PC lobbies.
I've witnessed more people directly make false facts about this, just to meet their own narrative, why? This debate about aim assistance isn't the same as two direct arguments like someone saying, "Red Sucks, then someone else saying, 'Blue Sucks".
This is asking if mouse & keyboard players should get the option to play in mouse & keyboard only servers. I don't think most controller users understand what that means.
My discussion is totally about giving gamers a choice.- 4 years ago@Popa2caps I agree with you. Everyone knows that .60 and .40 percent are pretty huge advantages in cqc. I have killed far more mechanically skilled players specifically because they pushed close range without realising I was on controller. For context I am diamond four and have killed masters/preds for taking cqc 1v1s against me.
- Anonymous4 years agoI honestly don't think most controller players even understand that point of view, but I think I do (correct me if I'm wrong).
These last couple of days I've been using a mouse & keyboard and close quarters combat is super hard. Most of the time I can't even see the person I'm fighting, so I just hipfire (it kind of helps).
Muzzle flash, surrounding area lighting, hit screen effects, evo shield effects, repositioning my mouse, me accidentally hitting the wrong keyboard key...
Now if I was using a controller, just no thought at all. I could sit there all day looking in one direction and hold the space with my beam of death. The only hard part while using a controller is looting or when the analog sticks are to move by themselves.
My Razer Wolverine Ultimate is so bad now. The extra bumpers are loose and just slide around in the controller. The analog sticks need a deadzone of 8% or they move everywhere (linear curve).
I've never used the 4 bottom buttons, they're just in a bad position. My normal bumpers double click when I use them so I ping enemies incorrectly at my location if I ping items.
How is this device being so broken that I can compete in 2K damage games repeatedly? It just doesn't make logical sense when it's so broken, but yet the aim assist just does it magic.
That's the current issue with aim assist in my opinion. It helps on a level that no human could even contest. Sure it might seem subtle, but it just does so much that most don't even know it.
- 4 years ago@Popa2caps
"My discussion is about the "option" to play on mouse & keyboard only servers, and not directly about cross-play. That is if mouse & keyboard players choose to use it, still, it should be up to them being the PC ecosystem."
100% agree. I just feel like by that same standard console players should also have the option not to play in PC lobbies at all, regardless of input.- 4 years ago
Console already does have this option and PC players used to have this option back when Crossplay was introduced.. Like I really do not get console players (not talking about you) saying PC players are cry babies for wanting PC only lobbies just like console players already have as a option and yet at the same time they say MNK is far more superior yet they play in our lobbies and cry themselves when we want our own lobbies like console players do have.
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