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D_Jameson_L's avatar
2 years ago

Apex fails returning casual players

I played Apex from launch until dropping off in 2021...and it's kinda impossible to come back to. I'll lay the blame mostly at my feet -- playing Destiny in the interim, a more forgiving aim-assist game. But coming back to Apex after two years...frankly, it's miserable for casual players to return. It feels like character hitboxes have been shrunken to sticks (half my shots miss if anyone flippantly AD stafes) and character movement is wayyy faster while recoil is unpredictable. TTK is wildly disparate -- instant for R99 and Volt, extremely slow for R301, Wingman and other guns that used to chip players down fast. Maybe it's nobody's fault -- the hardcore players demanding more precision and unpredictability to raise the skill ceiling. It just doesn't feel like there's any game left to come back to for casual players. Even the random mode roulette is no respite. I die quickly. If I wanted to succeed, I'd spend hours at the firing range to train my wrist to shift and account for recoil. But that's such a bummer to need to esports-train to even succeed as a casual. I hope this isn't the case for most lifers here. But if your game playlists are depleting and you wonder why your friends won't come back to Apex...maybe this is why.  

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  • It's because of the massive issues in the game.

    Massive cheater user base!

    Broken aim assist for controllers, having the upper hand?

    Chronus and strike packs?

    etc. etc. etc.

    And then messed up matchmaking...

    You struggle for these reasons, and if we didn't have these problems, then casual play would feel like it should.

  • Not only that, there is no reward for your effort. The rank system does not correspond to any actual value for you anymore. They are stupid thinking we enjoy a meaningless symbol.... if you try to go casual in normal queue, well forget about it, they use the same matchmaking mechanic there as in ranked so you will forever play against players when you had your peak.... I can't seem to rank down my MMR score and having to hard try even outside ranked gameplay is stupid....

  • ComicBookGuy2727's avatar
    ComicBookGuy2727
    Seasoned Ace
    2 years ago

    I find the more and more games I lose and get wiped and insta die (meaning like 50 games in a row) - the MM actually gets harder. The more I loss the tougher and tougher my opponents get, and the lower my teammates level and skill goes. 

    Makes no sense. The game is a write off at this point to me if you work a 40 hour job and like to play a couple hours a day for fun. 

    HAW, fun? 

    This is now a pro streamer game only IMO. 

    Beta day one player here. To the casual player base, stop spending money on this game. You are being taken advantage of. 

  • I do feel your pain, because I am suffering the same. Personally I returned 3 weeks ago after almost 3 1/2 years absence (seems most of my matches were in S1), tried for 3 weeks to get into the game again. I played many times with friends in groups, sometimes solo, but in the end Apex is just unfun to me. So I will go back again to play something else.

    It's not to say that I had'nt had a few fun moments in that time, but these rare gems are really outweighed by all the frustration about the bad net code, too low server tickrate for 2023, often lags and rubberbanding, constantly having to play against players in unranked of much higher skill level to just get stomped into the ground, and so much more.

    What I want is a laidback, nice experience, Apex simply does not deliver this for me. You know, something like High Tower on TF2 - such a type of experience, just a public match which do feels fair. But it seems this is not possible in Apex, you're either on the giving or receiving end of the pain truck most of the time with not much in between.

  • @Vruhag

    Fortnite Zero Build is a really laid back experience, especially Solo mode.

    I'm playing this all the time now, instead of Apex.

    But if you want chill in Apex, it can be done, you just drop far, work the edge of the ring and map, sneaking around.

  • Vruhag's avatar
    Vruhag
    2 years ago

    What I want in Apex, and I do consider as chilling around, are fairly balanced matches. But this is something I do get maybe in 1 out of 10 matches.

    My total kill count is maybe around 100, but I constantly keep getting paired against veteran players with 5000+ kills, insane high level counts and such. Which is anything, but balanced, because in the end they've got on Mix Tape e.g. spot #1 with 20 kills on their roster, #2 then 6 and so on. And this is just unfun for anyone at the receiving end.

  • @D_Jameson_L

    That was one of the best descriptions of the problem I've read in a long time. But you could leave out the part about how it's hard on returning players. I've stuck around the whole time and play almost every day. It's still hard. Not sure when developers will realize that extremely high skill ceilings only benefit extremely skilled players and cheaters, but on that day the world will be a better place.