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KillaKhan98
4 years ago
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Apex Legends Players "leave game" should be unavailable till banner grey

I've experienced around every 1 out of 6 games my teammate leaves, not even knocked, just midgame, sometimes even before we've landed. The people insta leaving after being knocked is another thing w...
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  • Balladalidila's avatar
    Balladalidila
    4 years ago
    @KillaKhan98 wrote:

    But don't you agree that the "leave game" option should be unavailable until the respawn banner turns grey.

    I think this would create so much toxicity and rage in the game that people would actually start to troll their teammates to ensure they arent the first in the team that dies.. I would.. If I knew that I had to wait until my banner timed out if I die because my two useless teammates cant handle one single fight, I would do everything in my power to only think about my self.  This would lead to a terrible gaming experience for everyone.

    The only reason why I for instance jumps back in the totally winnable fight with 50 hp + 20 shield instead of grapple myself to safety and heal,  is because I know that I can quit if my teammates dont take advantage of my unselfish play and do their part of the fight in an equally unselfish manner.  Imagine this situation but as I go back in to help my teammates, they use this as a distraction to run away... Terrible.

    But I do think they could implement some soft measures to increase the incentives to stay in the game. First of all; early leaving when knocked down could be worth three deaths, and leaving when dead worth 1 death  in the statistics instead of 0 as it is now.  Or perhaps some proximity rule: If your teammates are within 30 meters of you, the leave option is unavailable. This would at least prevent those who just leaves as soon as they knocked, even if you kill the last enemy the second after.

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Balladalidila
Seasoned Ace
4 years ago
@KillaKhan98 wrote:

But don't you agree that the "leave game" option should be unavailable until the respawn banner turns grey.

I think this would create so much toxicity and rage in the game that people would actually start to troll their teammates to ensure they arent the first in the team that dies.. I would.. If I knew that I had to wait until my banner timed out if I die because my two useless teammates cant handle one single fight, I would do everything in my power to only think about my self.  This would lead to a terrible gaming experience for everyone.

The only reason why I for instance jumps back in the totally winnable fight with 50 hp + 20 shield instead of grapple myself to safety and heal,  is because I know that I can quit if my teammates dont take advantage of my unselfish play and do their part of the fight in an equally unselfish manner.  Imagine this situation but as I go back in to help my teammates, they use this as a distraction to run away... Terrible.

But I do think they could implement some soft measures to increase the incentives to stay in the game. First of all; early leaving when knocked down could be worth three deaths, and leaving when dead worth 1 death  in the statistics instead of 0 as it is now.  Or perhaps some proximity rule: If your teammates are within 30 meters of you, the leave option is unavailable. This would at least prevent those who just leaves as soon as they knocked, even if you kill the last enemy the second after.

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KillaKhan98
4 years ago
@Balladalidila i like the proximity idea, however i don't agree that it would make the game toxic, the banner timeout is only 90 seconds, it is not too long of a wait.

A toxic player would feel like being downed first is a sign of weakness, it happens to everyone and please give your team a chance even when it seems impossible.
And also not everyone has the same thought process as you especially without comms. they still have 90 seconds to prove they may pick up your banner.

I stand by the statement that "leave game" should be made unavailable until banner turns grey, there are very small downsides.
'i can quit if i don't see my teammates run into the enemy after i'm downed' is not a valid point for keeping the leave game option.
  • Balladalidila's avatar
    Balladalidila
    Seasoned Ace
    4 years ago

    @KillaKhan98 

    I totally include the "not same thought process as you"-factor in my reasoning. This is an aspect of the solo queuer/bad teammates debate than Ive always promoted because I think that many players forget about this. I am totally aware that many, perhaps even most, situations that goes badly do NOT happen because people generally are stupid or bad, but just because bad understanding of each others playstyle, bad coms (as you pointed out) or simply unlucky circumstances. 

    But there are unfortunately so many situations when this isnt the case, especially as a solo queuer since you are teamed with a premade duo in at least 3/5 matches. We both know that a premade duo will ALWAYS treat their random worse than they treat each other at least to some degree. I just dont want to be forced to stay in the game after a teammate, who did nothing in the fight that your team just won, run past you to get to his premade friend who also is downed, 100 meters away. If I see that happens, I just leave. No hard feelings but please dont force me to play with these guys more.

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