Being shot around corners and thru doors
Idk what was done to the game this season but I am constantly being shot by an opponent that has no LOS on me. It happened rarely before but now it's almost every game. I know the game has the worst ...
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I agree that Respawns policy on totally no restrictions on high ping is stupid. They should have a limit of like 80 ms or so to be able to play ranked. But I must criticize your way of just assuming stuff and therefore spreading alot of misinformation. You are just assuming that high ping makes you harder and sometimes even impossible to hit, that high ping makes you teleport around. First of all, how do you even know those players you saw do this had high ping? You just assume this.
Do me a favor. Go play on another regions and see if you become invincible only because you have high ping... You wont. You will be able to hit people before they react but you will also be shot alot around corners. But it is quite funny to be able to instabeam someone before you even appear on their screens, which is possible with high ping. Here is a short clip of me playing at an asian server from EU. These poor players didnt even react. But all and all will playing on high ping put you in a disadvantage compared to playing on low ping since looting, pinging and hit markers will be much harder. Just look at the first guy I shoot as he drops down. So many hits in the air that didnt give me a hit marker until much later because of the high ping. If I was on low ping, I would have seen him get knocked mid air and be able to save ammo in the clip or snap to another target. Now I wasted a full clip.
PS on another topic; I recently saw a guy saying that Asian servers was full of hackers... Were were all of them when I played there? I played a good 20 matches and pretty much stomped every match. hmmm strange. 😉
@SbmmMakesMeSmurf To an extent, high ping helps the player who has it. I've had a high ping before, (not by choice), and was very surprised by how many fights I was able to slip in and out of without dying and how many kills I was able to get as well.
What I've meant as well is that while at a higher ping, lower ping players don't see you right away when you turn corners and you can shoot them after they turned corners, and the game would favor your shots more often due to lag compensation.
What I've meant as well is that while at a higher ping, lower ping players don't see you right away when you turn corners and you can shoot them after they turned corners, and the game would favor your shots more often due to lag compensation.
Being shot around the corners and through doors that is nothing.
RecentlyI am knocked down and only after that I see enemy fire in my direction!
This is competitive shooter experience right there!
All of this on low ping servers with no connection issues reported with red icons or performance metric.
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Read this blog post from the developers, especially the section "I am being killed while behind a door/wall, and sometimes I roll back to my previous position" and you will understand why it happens and why its sadly is necessary.
https://www.ea.com/en-gb/games/apex-legends/news/servers-netcode-developer-deep-dive
Here are some key points which kinda summarizes it if you by any chance are the kind of people who just want to complain without using the brain. But ofc you arent. Arent we all intelligent and rational people on this forum 😉
- “Our servers have to constantly look at not only what’s happening for you and your opponent at that moment, but also what was happening from both your perspectives at the time both of you input your actions,”
- “Lag compensation is the art of merging slightly different experiences into one shared reality.”
- “Some games always give the advantage to players with lower ping, but we actively choose not to with our system. Players with low ping don’t always have an advantage over high-ping players.
- “It feels bad to get shot when you think you’re behind cover due to bad ping. It also feels bad to get shot by somebody before you could even see them due to bad ping. But the nonsense is distributed symmetrically,”
So if you think about it, everything about it make sense. Having a game of 60 players with varying ping to the server IS like having 60 different slightly un-synced realities that have to agree on one final outcome for every action. And respawn wisely choose to make a middle-ground solution. I honestly dont think any other way of doing it would lead to a better and fairer gaming experience other than perhaps implement a maximum allowed ping. This would ofc punish people who cant afford good connection or live in rural areas in low tech countries.
I have read it multiple times in the past.
Basically they are confirming that they apply artificial lag to players (aka lag compensation) to give other players advantage.
And this line:
"But the nonsense is distributed symmetrically"
Is a lie.
With every fight the lag compensation changes. This means some algorithm decides for you how good You can be in certain engagements.
In one fight I can easily maneuver in other I can barely move! All on low ping servers with no connection issues.
This is how You manipulate the odds.
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