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If this game had any "skill based matchmaking", it died when ranked changed in S17.
- 2 years ago
Fixed. Thanks for the heads up. That said... what? Obviously you play the game enough to know, but how can they call that OK?
- Midnight97462 years agoHero+
@RealShock18 No idea, but we're suppose to go up against players of similar skills right?
Tell me how much sense does it make to make matches that puts anyone from any rank into the same matches like its pubs, and tell me how much sense does it make to basically be rigging player's games.
Let me break it down for you to explain why EOMM seems like its more in use than any "SBMM"... you do horribly for say 10-20 matches because your teammates up until now are playing like bots, aiming at the floor, running into walls, (or maybe they're playing like normal players but can't hit Gibraltar if he stood still). Meanwhile the enemy teams have been higher ranked players, cheaters, players smurfing, pre-stack preds, etc.
What happens after so many matches of getting destroyed? You suddenly get into a match where it feels like you can win, and your teammates start to look like they know how to play the game. But wait, why is that? Because the game put you in a match where other players are now in the position you were in, the one where their randoms are bots or new/casual players.
What happens if you win or do really well in that match? You get thrown right back into matches where your teammates can't hit anything, they die instantly, and the enemy players can beam you every which way to your local Wendy's.
I've been playing this game since the first week or so, and I've put in over 4266 hours according to the EA launcher. I've been apart of every season and never took season long breaks, a few weeks, sure, but I've been mainly playing. I've finished every event and battle passes besides a few, (S1's battle pass was grindy, and events like the Iron Crown wasn't easy for me to do with my old slow PC, and barely anyone wanted to do the early challenges where you had to win as 7 different legends 7 times dealing an insane amount of damage or whatever it was).
So yeah, in all my time playing this game, I can say for certain it doesn't have any kind of SBMM, at least not any SBMM that works.
With the above example of losing a lot getting you easier games, and winning getting you harder games, you may be thinking that your hidden MMR is suggesting your at a higher or lower skill, which would make sense to me if I wasn't being put into Faide's, ItsTimmy's, WeThePeople's, HisWattson's, etc. matches (all pro players), while on my LOSING streak back in S17 and S18. Which by the way, I was put into WeThePeople's matches 5 different times, which at the time, they were the #1 pred player on PC while I was still in silver/gold rankings. I ended up in ItsTimmy's about 3 times, HisWattson's 2 times, and I saw Faide one time. I'm sure they were in my matches more than that, but I only noticed them because I saw Faide, ItsTimmy, and HisWattson killing players in the kill feed, and I got squad wiped by WeThePeople in 3 of those 5 matches, the other two I was watching the feed, and saw him tearing up the lobby with two other pro players not mentioned above.
The game's logic was if I couldn't 1v3 a full pre-stack of players who were better, (or cheating), while both my teammates die instantly, then I must be able to 1v3 a pre-stack team of ALGS pro players. Keep in mind when I was being put through THAT, I was in silver and gold, while the pro players were already in masters and pred rankings.
The whole point of EOMM is to get you into matches that encourages you to want to keep playing. Got squad wiped too quickly? You must be mad and wanna try again to prove your worth. Suddenly got a win? Wow, you must feel so good and want to keep playing. This is how players are being treated, and its so toxic of a system. If you keep playing through the losses, you get a win, you feel good, and then get thrown back into the losses, which is meant to cycle the player through wanting to keep on doing better, which keeps them online.
By the way, EA/Respawn, that doesn't work how you think it does, it only harms the playerbase and makes them want to spend less time on the game. Yeah, everyone can't be a winner, but if games feel more fair, I would be playing more. Right now, games don't feel fair, especially with the rampant cheating and smurfing.
So, here's my honest opinion: When you get obliterated for 3 or so matches, (and I don't mean casually losing while placing top 3, 5, or 10, I mean if you get beamed and sent to the lobby far too quickly), stop playing, and if you win a match, also stop playing. Come back a day or so later. Why? Because if you purposely stop playing when you're forced to lose and stop playing when you get good wins, the EOMM, (and I have experienced this myself, which is how I know its a thing), would change to where you wouldn't be forced to lose as badly, (teammates can at least hit things), and it would be easier to win. The EOMM saw that you left after being bullied and left on "a high note", so its going to try and not bully you as much, but still try to prevent wins. If you fall back to playing after 5, 10, 15+ losses, the EOMM will go back to how it was. (This also works for any other mode as well. I found that when I stopped playing after being sent back to the lobby 5 matches in a row by cheaters, when I played a mixtape match 3 days later, it was super fun and enjoyable. The only problem playing like this, is that you'll only get a few games a day, before the matchmaking just reverts back.
If the game had any kind of SBMM, it wouldn't force players to carry their whole team, expecting them to 1v3 the whole lobby, and it also wouldn't just throw you to pred players on wins, its suppose to slowly raise you through the skill bracket where players of your skill level are, not just toss you into the matches of ALGs pros.Here's another thing, there are tons of players who are stomping others in the lower lobbies, (most of them are cheaters), tell me why I would see these players who been getting 15+ kill games in my matches while on a losing streak? If they're "so much better than me" and not "similar" in terms of skills, why aren't they in matches with diamond and up players? Why are they in matches with players who are rookie to plat level in terms of skills? My highest earned rank is plat, (my S17 master rank doesn't count since it was far too easy to earn that rank, and no I didn't rat for it either).
On a side note, there are exploits players have used to where they were able to get into pred matches as a rookie or bronze player, (they were cheating), and ones where pred players, (not any of the pros), were able to get into lower player's matches for easy kills and wins. You won't see this being used as much now since we seem to be placed into the same matches.
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