Like the topic says, I've never seen a game where you have to lead your shots so much... in close combat.Add some laggy situation in the beggining of the game and you won't hit anything as the guy you are shooting is teleporting and you are throwing rocks at it.The bullets travel at ridiculously low speeds.I don't mind adjusting for bullet drop and leading on longer ranges, but man this is the future we are playing in and compared to WW1/WW2 shooters these remind me more or muskets compared to real guns.So add bullet velocity but more drag/gravity effect to balance the bullet drop, which is fine by the way.

I do think some guns definitely need a boost to bullet velocity but I don't think it's as bad as you're describing.Longbow DMR should have higher bullet velocity than the G7 Scout for instance...Other weapons with questionably low bullet velocity for their item groupVK-47 Flatline, why should it be lowest? You can't even get a barrel attachment. The Hemlok (relatively certain the hemlok has a similar fire rate if you do semi-auto and spam click as well) and R-301 are better choices for mid and late-game leaving the flatline behind.Mozambique, 40% slower bullet velocity than the EVA-8 and Peacekeeper is pretty brutal especially since this gun is pretty meh for damage to begin with.Also the Devotion has an oddly high bullet velocity being the highest in the game. It makes sense that the energy bullets have high velocity but it doesn't make sense that the Devotion has higher bullet velocity than the Triple-Take, especially when you also consider that the Spitfire has slower bullet velocity compared to the Longbow DMR.

@Comanglia It's close to medium range I'm talking about.It's like there's an acceleration problem or something, sometimes I have to lead shots a lot with most guns at <50m, coming from any shooter it's unnatural.Maybe it's input lag/regular network lag, I can't put my finger on it but I know it's consistent and feels different from any game, even Titanfall 2 with weapons of the same class.With some guns it's not an issue, never with the peacekeeper or the wingman.I'm fine with the long range weapons and that you have to lead shots, it comes naturally but when you have to do that with an SMG when you are in their faces it does not.

I find it to be the other way around, Longbow's bullet drops like a rock and I have to aim 3 dots up on the site just to get a shot on their foot. Scout though I can generally just aim directly at them and boom head shots for days!I always assumed that the velocity and bullet drop had some kind of relation to the type of ammo it used. The heavy ammo being slower with higher bullet drop, but obviously higher damage. Light ammo getting higher velocity and less bullet drop, but weaker in damage. I am not sure how true this is, but that's how it feels in game.I have only really ever had a gripe with the bullet drop on the longbow, It's gigantic for the fact that it's a sniper rifle. I am shooting guys not even 50M away, and the bullet is hitting their foot when I aimed at their head. I can even be at high elevation, and somehow shooting downward still makes the bullet drop, what even is that?\As for velocity, well I can't disagree that sometimes it does feel like it is lacking in short to mid range. I am not saying you shouldn't have to lead at all, but sometimes it does seem strange that I have to lead a foot off their body to hit them, when I am no more then 5 feet away.

From what I can tell, most guns in apex are actually sub 700 feet per second, despite the devs reporting higher. Battlefront has faster shots...I don't think the devs have ever used a real gun because those sumbetches shoot upwars of 1500+ feet per SECOND for mid calibur rifle rounds. Pistols are slow, but even in Apex, they feel TOO slow.Then you add in how people can gain an instant speed boost by sliding into a jump and it's just all kinds of messed up. Even Titanfall 1 had a better system.

im mainly pissed about the bullet velocity of the wingman and the weapon sway. someone was ziplining 10 metres away from me and i had to lead my shots?!?!?!?! id be fine with the boosted loader gone and -1 bullet per mag if they could give a buff to the fire rate and the range of the wingman. the introduction of the boosted loader was like putting a bandaid on the knee of someone suffering from a brain tumor; everyone thinks its cool but it does nothing to the core problem with the softbal- wingman. i also think that something like this would be buff to mnk as mnk excels at range which the wingman lacks right now.

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II-LAZZARUS-II
4 years ago
Feel the same way too.
I know its a different game, but in BF2042 Beta it felt much better to shoot and hit with their kind of meta then it is in Apex.
I can't stand the fact that what ever gun or rifle I would have, I would miss someone at a range between 0-3m, no matter what recoil that weapon would have.
Even at 1m I have to lead the flatline fro example 3-5mm (34" Monitor) in the direction the OP is running to hit his head. Every APEX Legend must have some sort of Jedi Force Speed...
Thats so ridiculous...
DesertDust91
4 years ago
Generally speaking Battlefield series has very pleasant gun play, Battlefield 1 for example was very fun, i had like 900 hours in it and i left it only because i needed something new and it was simply enough. 🙌 Battlefield V isn't bad in that regard too. People from Dice always do it as they should. If someone killed me in BF i knew it was my fault.
But returning to apex - there is nothing better like having fully concentrated peacekeeper shot and hit for 8 damage(because someone still manage to move a bit), or hemlok with burst which could hit for 60 + and hits for 17 for no reason. Oh well. I avoid those two weapons exactly for that reason, and other people seem to do the same.
Apex would benefit from increasing the bullet speed at least of some weapons but i don't think it will happen.🤨
Wimoweh
3 years ago
If you are able to shoot each other, then the bullet fly tie is way too slow... Or if you can dodge a bullet, same.
AmEye_EnSideyoo
3 years ago
@Maun0_Mato Bullet velocity is a big problem! Gravity and Velocity need to be at least close to reality, even in fantasy shooters. Much needs to adjusted in APEX because this very enjoyable game becomes super aggravating when "Bullet Velocity" is why you miss... That's on you devs. Leading an opponent from >10m away is so ridiculous it makes the entire game seem like a huge gimmick.

Because in APEX a character can dart back & forth(without getting tired or consulting gravity/inertia) quicker than bullets can travel at them. That makes absolutely no sense whatsoever. Bullet velocity should be a constant. At 10meters away the bullet should leave the gun and make contact in less than 1/10th second, that is not the case in APEX. 1/10th of a second is so fast the "SEEING THE BULLET" gimmick is proof devs aren't working in the realm of believable reality.

"This is a fantasy shooter" Oh, I get this criticism and I file that away with the "Why do you play if its aggravating". The answer to both is, the game has to be enjoyable, which it mostly is, but inane moments compile to make me aghast at these clear(to me) discrepancies.

In APEX you always have to use Kentucky windage, at any distance, to hit targets because bullet velocity is not a constant but depends on a series of factors none of which are based in a believable reality. Why even have crosshairs, they just get in the way of seeing the bullets, which is the only real way to reliably hit targets, fire a few and see where they land.

For example, I recently was >5m away from an opponent, I had a charge rifle. I clicked mouse to shoot, first bullet hit opponent right in the chest. Then I get knocked, second bullet from charge rifle never fires. HOW DEVS? This all happened faster than bullets travel approx 10meters. How does getting knocked stop the “in progress” firing of a weapon? This is just dumb. I’ve thrown numerous nades and abilities that never land or explode because I was knocked during the process. Throwing a nade that disappears is, again, a huge problem for the feeling of a believable reality.

Last point: if we can slide cancel we should also be able to gimmick cancel. If my character throws up a peace sign after using an ability, we should be able to click through and cancel that gimmick’s VFX and start firing. I’ve been killed multiple times in the game “in progress” of some unnecessary VFX, unable to shoot or slide or do anything other than catch bullets with my face.

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