@BigBlackCaustic I'm mainly speaking on the fact that now they stroll through the nox ult like they smelling a cheep fart bomb it doesn't do not near enough damage as it used to where if you got caught you had to get out quick a few seconds is all it took. Now it takes longer, does less damage and, I thought it was only teammates who could see through your gas? I've been in the opposite end of a caustic ultimate and I could se as clear as caustic, and I was play as mirage at that game.