Cheaters still ruining your game

@Balladalidilafor my game analysis and questioning situations - I do that as well, I record all my games most of the days (when I am trying actually to be as good as possible, have 100% focus, when I don't I skip recording as I know that I will make some mistakes).

Yet my conclusions after my video analysis remain the same - there is too much fishy, lucky, obviously dirty play going on.
I will not post videos now - I don't know how to blur people's names and honestly am to lazy to go learn and do that now just to prove the point.

Regarding Wingman - I am talking about cases where you see people on Diamond level who have 0 game sense e.g. one dude just dropped in front of me while I was running, there were almost no other sounds e.g. ambient of fights going on, dude just ran opposite direction but after I shot him in the back he turned around and 3 shot me with Wingman 136? damage. Luck maybe, but when such a thing happens multiple times per day no matter what you do, how you strafe and then you see those Youtube videos where Wingman bullets just "find" their targets as long as you are looking at least somewhat close to the enemy I personally start to question such shots. Would I bet my money on them...probably no, not yet. Would I do that after seeing this person's demo of the game remains to be answered. But I ain't a believer in those missing 2 then hit 5 in a row with 3 being headshots kind of scenarios. Doable - yes, doable on constant basis - hell no.

As for the recoil - the close range is out of the question, I agree with all the stated points. I call close range "dummy" and "controller player" distance as that's how most of those players play to win = just rush into your face.

Yet when e.g. one dude lasered me with R-99 first from ~75m during the crazy ongoing fight and then again after I was respawned from ~50m...well I would really like to see his demo and would actually bet my money on no recoil.

301 is out of the question, gun really has almost 0 recoil, when you get higher barrel mods it really seems like 0 recoil. So those shots are doable in my opinion even by quite an average person.

As for your 2nd clip... well there I would question couple of shots.
First the shot from low ground up with attachment-less Devotion (~0:25-0:30) - cursor just stayed wayyyy to steady for that shot. Plus you were not strafing (known thing to mitigate recoil)...initial kick of devotion was there but the rest of the spray was too steady in my opinion.

Also if you look later at ~0:50 when you shoot people on the stairs the cursor has again initial kick and then this floating which is typical Devotion behavior even when you try to control recoil. This shot is what I usually get, the previous one is fishy for me (not going into a pointless discussion into an argument do I think you hack or you hacked on one case but not the other - answer to that is if I would need to bet my money I would, if not I would spectate you more to draw further conclusions).

As for r-99 shots - doable, especially ones with purple barrel = makes R-99 close to R-301. Yet if you would spray people like that in mid-range (as you said 50+ m) constantly, I would pay attention to this type of shot. You can land some of the one mags with R-99 especially if you have attachments and use the gun on a regular basis, also while strafing, but if you would start doing that standing still and on regular basis without attachments I would question the skill.

Plus all these clips are from the public = potentially weaker, less skilled players, which makes one clipping easier.
Situations that do trigger my nerves are the ones when you play well on your good days in Diamond lobbies and you get shot like a nub by a similarly ranked (sub-master / ex master at most) level players.

Finally - what I see no recoilers usually use are L-star, Flatline, Havoc. If you can beam these 3 as well feel free to upload those clips and tips on how you do it 🙂

Here is an example of R-99 no recoil in my opinion - played with this dude yesterday, he had 0 teamwork, poor game awareness yet sure he did deal 2200 damage with 4-5 kills while I had like 1500 with 2+1 or something in P4 lobby (currently full of ex-diamonds).

https://www.twitch.tv/videos/1162507212

And when I died and spectated him, sure no recoil was super obvious. I confronted him about the fact, dude clearly was not ready to answer my accusations, studdered some random arguments, eventually just said "yeah ok whatever".

In the end, dude pushed multiple enemies and died like a public newb cursing on me not teamworking even though I was the one left by him and another dude without cover fire while being pushed by a team of 3 over an open ground.