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4 years ago

Cheaters still ruining your game

Wow...just wow. 3 times in one match grenades are appearing at my feet and behind walls. so much fun. your game is being ruined by cheaters and aim bots but hey lets get that new event out. your...

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Balladalidila

Seasoned Ace

4 years ago

@Eshshshss

I identify myself as a "Diamond4+" player because I CAN get out of Diamond 4 by myself but I dont see myself as a master player because the one split that I got to master I:

1) only played with the same two premades, both of them a bit better then me when it comes to fighting, not night and day better but still considerably better, With that being said, I think I had the best "game sense" of us three, like I was usually the one who knew where enemies where, based on previous fights we had heard, the new circle location and areas we just been to and cleared etc. But still, I know that I would never had got out of Diamond without them.

2) We really had to play tactically, like always looking for cheezy third parties where we tried to swoop in right after the fight was over or sometimes just get one or two knockdowns from far away and then change position/rotation and hope they would finish each other, giving us Kill points.

4) Because it took us pretty much the entire split to do this.

5) Simply because I know that I am more likely to lose vs a current Master or Pred. I will still usually do said "75%" dmg to them and I will ofc also sometimes win fair and square. But my overall experience is that I am just below the average Master player, skill wise.

But honestly, what you are describing is exactly what I experience but maybe just one or two ranks above your such rank... If what you described in 1), 2) and 3) start to happen to you in Diamond 4, then same things started to happen for me at maybe Diamond 3 or 2 (thats why I needed my premades and cheezy tactics to progress). And some other player, who is worse than both of us, maybe experience this in Plat2 etc etc. I still dont ubuy why this would be a proof of cheaters. Everyone has his individual "peak rank" where his individual skill isnt enough to progress further and need other variables in their favor to progress, like my premades for instance.

And btw, You mentioned that you get one clipped by L-star alot.. Its actually OP even after the nerf. I have not played with L-star much at all until this season but I can still manage to control in decent enough to one clip also on longer range. Here is a clip with the L-star on approx 30 meters with no attachments except mag. Its max dmg is 468 not counting HS so you only need to land less than 50% of the shots to one clip a red armor so imagine how OP it is in the hands of a Predator or just someone who practiced with it alot..

Midnight9746

Hero+

4 years ago

@Balladalidila Hmm interesting. Although players in my lobbies don't play like that. Those players seem like real bronze to gold players, my lobbies almost always have full on masters or preds fully stacked.

Guess its just different types of lobbies.

Balladalidila
Seasoned Ace
4 years ago
@Midnight9746

But just out of curiosity ;lets assume you are correct. You are sorted into different lobbies than me: I get handicapped in Bronze/Gold lobbies whereas you get lobbies of "full on master or preds fully stacked". Why would it be so? Is it because I have worse stats than you? My main is banned (I said the f-word once and got banned for 168 hours =) but this is the account that I played the matches in the clip. Maybe you have 8+ K/D and thats why you get these "full on master or preds fully stacked"? . Or do you buy into the ongoing theme of some of this threads on this forum that suggest that the game is rigged against some specific players and in favor of some?
With respect, your reasoning seems very much like tin-foil hat conspiracy theories to support your argument. I honestly think that we get the EXACT same lobbies when we play solo pubs (the matchmaking is considerably hotter when I play premade duo or trios btw).. And here is a proof of that: This is the jump trail of, I believe the 3rd match in the video... I count at least 5 Diamond trails and 2 masters and this wasnt even the hot drop of the map; at LEAST as many diamond/masters and some preds went down to Countdown and staging before this.
I dont know how good you are, perhaps you are way better than me but it honestly seems to me that this entire "hacker/no recoil" discussion is a matter of RELATIVE SKILLS. Some guy that perhaps has about 1.7 K/D might one clip someone who struggles in Gold and that players thinks he just got killed by a no-recoil cheater... But when I fight that 1.7 K/D, I one clip him before he even lands a shot on me, which happens a couple of time in my clip, and THAT guy think I am a no-recoil cheater. And then I run into the #40 Predator and he one clips me before I even spot him.. Should I also assume he is a cheater or should I accept that I am not the biggest fish in the tank, i.e that just l like I can one clipped and totally out-play some players, so can I get one clipped and totally outplayed ?
Midnight9746
Hero+
4 years ago
@Balladalidila I think you're better, you have more kills than death, broke almost 5k damage, while I more deaths than kills, and my highest is 3,860 damage in a single match.

By fully stacked preds, I mean they all have the pred badge, 20k bomb, and 4k damage badges normally. Its usually a Wraith or someone with insane amount of kills, and I'm here like "why are you in my lobby anyways?"

Majority of the players are either skilled, or you think they're a bot. There's just been some that are way too accurate with their aim and they seem to know where everyone is no matter what.

I still don't understand how you can peak for a half second around a corner, and your armor and about 90% of your health is instantly gone, but when they peak, the most all you can seem to do is like 11-35. I also don't understand how someone can use the R-99 100+ meters away without any actual recoil. People are just built differently, I guess.