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Yoko-Ono-U-Didn's avatar
Yoko-Ono-U-Didn
3 years ago

cheating and smurfing not being addressed?

You are a multi billion dollar company and yet the cheat companies have better developers than you do? They have professional websites with discords, youtube channels and streamers promoting non-stop...
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Xubunnytwo's avatar
Xubunnytwo
3 years ago

I honestly can't tell you a smurf from a real good first time player.

I can't say 100% for sure when people are cheating either. 

I don't know how much or how little EA cares about this game, but it is probably less than the people at Respawn, who worked very hard at creating it. 

Companies worth billions often don't care much about their own products.  Look at how little love Microsoft shows to Windows, that is their flagship product.  When they are rolling around in their billions, the unpaid intern walks into the room, and says, "Sir that software we give everyone for free to force developers to buy our expensive content licenses?  Well it is broken sir and people are unhappy.".   They just dismiss it.  Because they know the general public won't switch to another OS.  But I did, decades ago. 

EA publishes Respawn's games, their next money maker by Respawn is Jedi: Survivor game at the end of April.  They look at the future and this game is the past in their eyes.  There are at least 2 more Star Wars games to be announced. I am sure someone at Respawn still holds a candle for Apex Legends, but I cannot honestly tell you that EA has any concern about it at all.

  • DELETExSBMM's avatar
    DELETExSBMM
    3 years ago
    @Xubunnytwo From what I saw how this game was at launch (old youtube vids) it looks like Respawn REALLY cares about this game because almost all of their gameplay changes have been fantastic, and you usually can't say that for developers with GAAS like this. Overwatch got ruined by constant tinkering but Apex seems to have found what is fun and adapted accordingly (evo shields, starting with armor/helm, new guns slap, new maps (not storm point), new legends are all fantastic)
    • Xubunnytwo's avatar
      Xubunnytwo
      3 years ago
      @DELETExSBMM I like Storm Point better than Broken Moon, they need to add more to BM to make it more interactive. There are no buttons to push, no go to spot, no official legend hide-away.
      • Midnight9746's avatar
        Midnight9746
        Hero+
        3 years ago

        Cheaters basically found a way to block reporting.

        I just got killed by a team that was cheating on new accounts, and I ended up spectating my teammate, (and the last one who was alive), however the only tab given was the spectate one, I didn't have a death recap tab. Once my teammate had gotten killed, there was still no death recap tab, yet the summary tab appeared and I was then specating the cheating team which I had reported, (which the bugged UI seems to indicate a cheat much like how they can force your spectation onto another squad even when they're still alive).

        Why I think its a cheat as well: Season 16 for whatever reason removed the ability to report the last squad and the death recap tab was also removed from that fight. Why? No idea. However cheats work by finding weaknesses in the game's code. (For example, wall hacks work because cheaters get the location data sent to and from the server from all players, and with that data they can pinpoint everyone on the map). So as far as I'm aware of and from what I'm seeing, EA/Respawn only enabled cheaters to cheat more.

        Not being able to report when dying to the last team needs to be patched out as its only going to enable cheaters to become fully unreportable and combined with force spectation and hiding their usernames, no one is going to be able to report them and we already know that Easy Anti-Cheat doesn't seem to care.

        What I can see being the next big thing:

        1) You die and place 3rd-20th or so place, killer's names are <Legend> tags, there's no death recap, and you're now watching a squad that's 200+ meters away from where you had died
        2) You die and place 2nd, and its the same as above, where you get no reportable usernames, no death recap, but the difference is that the last team's name won't be shown at all as "this is your champion" screen would still show their <Legend> tag, and right when you die any and all HUD UI (like that team's health) goes away.

        As a player, this just looks like a non-verbal way of saying "we don't care" (and/or) "we can't fix this problem" (...) so we're just going to phase out reporting and pretend its not a thing. (They kind of already do that with smurphs).

        (The kill leader is one of the cheaters, even though I had to remove their name).


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