cheating and smurfing not being addressed?

Hero+

2 years ago

Cheaters basically found a way to block reporting.

I just got killed by a team that was cheating on new accounts, and I ended up spectating my teammate, (and the last one who was alive), however the only tab given was the spectate one, I didn't have a death recap tab. Once my teammate had gotten killed, there was still no death recap tab, yet the summary tab appeared and I was then specating the cheating team which I had reported, (which the bugged UI seems to indicate a cheat much like how they can force your spectation onto another squad even when they're still alive).

Why I think its a cheat as well: Season 16 for whatever reason removed the ability to report the last squad and the death recap tab was also removed from that fight. Why? No idea. However cheats work by finding weaknesses in the game's code. (For example, wall hacks work because cheaters get the location data sent to and from the server from all players, and with that data they can pinpoint everyone on the map). So as far as I'm aware of and from what I'm seeing, EA/Respawn only enabled cheaters to cheat more.

Not being able to report when dying to the last team needs to be patched out as its only going to enable cheaters to become fully unreportable and combined with force spectation and hiding their usernames, no one is going to be able to report them and we already know that Easy Anti-Cheat doesn't seem to care.

What I can see being the next big thing:

1) You die and place 3rd-20th or so place, killer's names are <Legend> tags, there's no death recap, and you're now watching a squad that's 200+ meters away from where you had died
2) You die and place 2nd, and its the same as above, where you get no reportable usernames, no death recap, but the difference is that the last team's name won't be shown at all as "this is your champion" screen would still show their <Legend> tag, and right when you die any and all HUD UI (like that team's health) goes away.

As a player, this just looks like a non-verbal way of saying "we don't care" (and/or) "we can't fix this problem" (...) so we're just going to phase out reporting and pretend its not a thing. (They kind of already do that with smurphs).

(The kill leader is one of the cheaters, even though I had to remove their name).

Unitee01
2 years ago
@Midnight9746What is your evidence for this constant cheating? I've read your posts for a long time regarding it yet I wonder what the difference is vs you landing all your shots. I play pc too and actually think there are less cheaters vs console as console does not show numbers. Every time I die I can see why. Why do you think every match you play has cheaters in it? It is virtually impossible and accuracy is pretty easy to control anyway..
And also, strike pack offers "constant aim" instead of "accurate aim". You can aim better than it can is the normal response to it. The difference is it can allow you to do other things, like jump while not having to think about recoil control or tracking. So, just accurate aim alone is not a reason to suspect cheating. Some can shoot straight with a controller, easy, not that hard, depending on settings and I have yet to see a difference.
edit - if there was any real evidence those players would be banned, but I do not see it? I am not here to choose sides yet I have yet to see it legit happen. And this is coming from someone who does not trust EA/Respawn.
- d3bugIT
  2 years ago
  I've actually been lucky enough to speak with a manager in security at EA, on the phone in the past, and the way it was explained to me is that EA does take cheating serious and they do work to correct it, but let's face it, this is big mountain to climb.
  It's also my understanding Conor Ford is also always working on cheating for EA. If you don't know who he is Google him.
  And I will agree, there is constant cheating the evidence is not something we can simply show you, you just had to of played this game long enough, to understand it fully, it's mechanics and how everything works and I do.
  I've been playing since Day 1 with over 3000 hrs in this game, and if I don't know what cheating looks like by now, I might as well hang it up LOL, but I seriously do, and there is a big problem with it in this game, that's a fact.
  - Unitee01
    2 years ago
    @d3bugIT Sure, but the dude posts this cheating issue non-stop (no the op) and also the SMURPH thing.....smurph....ph. There just aren't that many cheaters to go around...it's just not feasible. And smurfs are allowed according to the game rules, although I don't like it either they are not breaking rules. You have that many hours in game - do you see that many cheaters? I'm guessing no.
- reconzero
  Seasoned Ace
  2 years ago
  @Unitee01
  
  IMO, he says it all in the title: cheating AND smurfing. To the average player in this game the one is indistinguishable from the other. Is the OP constantly squaring off against actual cheaters? Probably not. But it's pretty obvious, especially this season, that Respawn has abandoned all pretense at matching players based on skill. So when a normal player has fifteen consecutive matches where he is expected to square off against highly skilled players who are gifted with your "easy to control accuracy..." then how is he supposed to tell that apart from cheating? (Hint: even if he can, it doesn't make it okay.)
  
  My matches this season are all like this. I get fifteen matches in a row where my squadmates are new to the game, and then I get a single match where by squadmates are, "enemy down, enemy down, whole squad wiped" three times before the second circle, and that's without any help from me whatsoever. So my option is to try and save the hopeless or be the hopeless third wheel. This is why people quit matches and call out cheating. The game has become a sewer and whether it's because of actual cheaters, or just soft cheating, or just Respawn's inability to matchmake, is utterly beside the point.
  
  The only thing that it on point is whether the problems get better over time or worse. So far it's sixteen straight seasons of deterioration. At least from what I can see. And telling the OP that it's not cheaters he's experiencing, just better players, is kinda missing the entire point. IMO. It's quibbling over the speed of your pizza delivery while your house burns down with you still in it.
  - Unitee01
    2 years ago
    @reconzero Hey bro, I'm with you, mostly. I was not referring to the op tho regarding the constant cheating posts.
    
    It's always been like that - bad teammates and every once in awhile a good match where the stars align.
    
    Bro, can I be honest with you? You remind me of someone who just got the game and failed to remove the shrink wrap yet plays it somehow..... I'm not insulting you but dude you play on default settings for one, no one does that. At least one notch up if you wont do custom settings. 2nd thing is charge rifle....bro, just start playing with whatever is meta..r301, r99, car, whatever..you'll realize what the community is "on about" real quick and hopefully also learn some stuff about 1v1's? Maybe? 3rd you sound real negative about new ideas...which means you'll suffer whenever new metas are introduced... 4th, passive play will reflect whenever you 1v1 a friend, or anyone really...it's not fun, and you realize it means nothing, although you have all those "stats".
    
    I'm not some guru who's above it all and I'm not that good either, but man, whenever we talk it's like you are playing something else, aside from this latest comment.. Sorry, I just had to say this. Feel free to correct me, and I don't mean to be disrespectful, but I doubt that I'm wrong about this. 🙂
- NickBeam27
  Seasoned Ace
  2 years ago
  @Unitee01 What was the number, correct me if I'm wrong somewhere around the 130 million player mark?
  One of, if not thee most played BR at the moment....and the company that makes the strike packs and cronus etc reported selling out how many times back to back to back to back within a couple months, repeatedly - I believe faster than they could make them. Hmmm, wonder how many of those thousands and thousands of strike packs and cronus etc found their way to the most popular and most competitive BR game on the market?
  
  But yeah, there probably isn't that much cheating in apex.
  
  I said this before, true aimbot is dead, nobody uses it anymore, the only ones that do are the trolls that want you to know they are...gets them off.
  True aimbot has been replaced with soft aimbot, works almost as well as true, but by making it a little bit harder to tell. A cowards hiding hack if you will. Like you said, "if there was any real evidence those players would be banned." - The whole point of these new hacks is to hide the evidence as best as possible to avoid detection and to avoid the bans.
  
  But lets hope you're statements are more accurate than mine for the sack of Apex Legends and in the name of having fun. Fun? what's that you say? Awh, I know what that is... Apex beta to about season 5. When the original Devs (the ones that cared) were still around.
  - Unitee01
    2 years ago
    @NickBeam27 Yeah bro, obviously you have a better understanding. But what difference does it make in game? Some cheat, some don't. A lot do. facts. But to accuse every controller player of cheating is stupid. Some do, some don't, most don't. But I know a lot do but not most, just due to experience. Point is he is preaching it like it's a way of life. It is not. Controller will own pc up close and vise versa in range. Of course sore losers will say - he cheated in any instance. 🙂