"Gun Curve" philosophy is broken and flawed TLDR at the end

There was mention few patches back about not buffing The p2020 and Mos because you wanted to game to have a "curve" so the weapons get better over the course of the match when upgrading parts. Just ...

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d3adc3II

6 years ago

- BR is like that. It's all around RNG factors from circle, weapon to loots. But Luck comes to skilled players more often.

- Normalize time to kill damage in early game is a ridiculous idea. There are many ways to avoid early fights until you got a decent weapon, but don't expect P2020 to be as strong as Peace in early game.

ARMED_N_HAMERED
Seasoned Rookie
6 years ago
I under stand that BR is like that luck of finding stuff, but if you look fornite and Blackout the Time to kill for all the weapons is about the same. The only thing the upgrades do is rate of fire or reload speed or recoil reduction. Time to kill is about the same even after fully kitted. They don't have 3 super powerful weapons that you can get from anywhere kill everything, The fact the people would rather use the Peacekeeper and wingman over the gold Crab or the mast says something.
Why is balancing out the the weapons so that time to kill is the same a crazy idea? wouldn't you want this game to have more skill to it less RNG luck and hip spray?
- Vhalei
  6 years ago
  I dont know if you have noticed, but the p2020 does about the same damage per shot as the r99. The only difference is RoF and magazine size. you can easily knock someone who hasnt got armor yet in under a second with the p2020. The mozambique can 2 shot an unarmored target if one of 3 shots hits the head, and alternatively if you hit all 3 pellets it does 15 more damage than punching, letting you shoot twice, punch once and knock someone.
  The curve being referred to is exactly what you are describing and calling random luck.
  You have low tier weapons which are better than your fists if you can aim with them, but you want to swap them out asap. You have medium tier weapons, which are better than the low tier weapons if you can aim with them, and can run ok for most of the match. Then you have high tier weapons, which you want to have by the end of the game. If you survive, you are guaranteed to come across plenty of high tier weapons by the end of the game, and even somewhat likely to come across "god tier" weapons.
  - LuckyCanuckLuke
    6 years ago
    @Vhalei wrote:
    I dont know if you have noticed, but the p2020 does about the same damage per shot as the r99. The only difference is RoF and magazine size. you can easily knock someone who hasnt got armor yet in under a second with the p2020. The mozambique can 2 shot an unarmored target if one of 3 shots hits the head, and alternatively if you hit all 3 pellets it does 15 more damage than punching, letting you shoot twice, punch once and knock someone.
    The curve being referred to is exactly what you are describing and calling random luck.
    You have low tier weapons which are better than your fists if you can aim with them, but you want to swap them out asap. You have medium tier weapons, which are better than the low tier weapons if you can aim with them, and can run ok for most of the match. Then you have high tier weapons, which you want to have by the end of the game. If you survive, you are guaranteed to come across plenty of high tier weapons by the end of the game, and even somewhat likely to come across "god tier" weapons.
    That's the whole problem. The guy making this post can't aim. It's the usual "I died, you need to change the game" post