How to balance Gibraltar on both platforms!
Hi! I've been having a lot of discussions on this forum lately regarding Gibraltar. I am a PC player and on PC he is clearly the worst legend by quite a lot, but according to the console players in ...
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What do you mean if they are going to make him 15%? He got his base health (100 HP) fortified increased from 10 to 15% for the Season 2 update. The only reason the gun shield should get back to 50 HP is if it also covers his head, which it should to make it usable on PC and not OP on console.
@ZeptikkHueAnything that covers his head is OP. Currently if you get the benefit of the doubt on saying headshots are always easy to hit and that's all anyone on PC does anyway : he's got the same size head as anyone but he takes less damage in it. Why would he need a buff so that you can't headshot him while he's ADSing?
[edit] - Are you 100% sure that the fortified buff only affects his health? If this was true our damage numbers on his armor would be the same as they are on other legends : and they're not. They're lower even if he has armor.
1. He needs a buff because he is too weak on PC. If you can think of any other ways to buff him without making him OP on console, please come with suggestions. Every legend is OP in some situations, I want Gibraltar to be OP in 1 or 2 situations, which is head on close combat and maybe when sniping, since he is basically UP (under-powered) in every other situation. He is UP when running, walking, sitting, near, far and from every angle except the front IF he is ADS'ing without a broken shield. On PC he is UP even with his arm shield up since he can't really dodge bullets. It's so easy to shoot him in the side, head or legs that his shield does not really matter.
2. Actually you made me double check and it seems like Fortified might affect shields now too after they resolved some bugs, but I did not find any actual tests\empirical evidence yet. I will have to run tests myself I guess. Anyways 15% even with body armor level 3 is not much considering his model is 240% larger than Wraith's. Point is I've played both as him and against him more than enough to be absolutely 100% sure that he is a terrible legend on PC. I've yet to see a top player or streamer play consistently as good with him as with other legends as well. I've seen some good plays on console though, but even Staycation who is pretty big on console admits he is not quite up there even after the Season 2 buffs, although his initial reaction would lead you to think otherwise. I like challenges so I usually get a bit sad when I see Gibraltars because I know the chance of them being an easy kill is 9 out of 10. (mainly because mostly newbies choose him as they are not aware how bad he is. I bump into good Gibraltar players more often in Season 2 due to players choosing him to do missions, but I always get a confidence boost when I spot him)
@ZeptikkHueYou keep saying he is underpowered because he is too big. The way to fix that is to make him smaller :S Anything else just either adds another imbalance or a red herring mechanic that doesn't do anything to change the underlying issue of him being easier to hit.
The 240% of wraith thing isn't accurate. He is bigger than her but that statistic takes into account loads of stuff on his model which isn't a part of his hitbox. Wraiths hitbox is more or less pixelperfect as far as I've tested.
And you keep saying they need to shrink him. Well, if that's your logic then you'd have to make sure every character is the same size. This is never going to happen so I don't understand why you are repeating this. You are basically arguing for all legends being similar which would make for a very uninteresting game. Reducing him to the size of Caustic would help, but it's a cop out and not in line with Respawns game mechanic design.
You have to count for the player model, you can't just count the hit box. A bigger model makes people able to pre-shoot you and it makes it harder for you to hide and you are easily spottet in the distance.
I don't really get why you are responding without at least one realistic balance suggestion. Also, the more I investigate and get feedback from console players, the more I am convinced he is quite underwhelming on console too. Your friend is good at the game because he is good at gaming and not because his main is Gibraltar..
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