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WoahItsTea's avatar
WoahItsTea
6 years ago

I still think Wraiths 'Phase Shift' ability needs a risk to it.

I made a post months ago similar to this and the main argument against me was that while using phase shift Wraith cant see players or open doors so it must be balanced. I don't even play Wraith and ...
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heme725's avatar
heme725
6 years ago

@WoahItsTea Your adjustment to her tactical is actually fair and reasonable although we don't know how the changes would actually play out. However you don't give any good reason to change it. Among the legends with a "get out of jail free card" Wraith's abilities rank 3rd at best behind Pathfinder and Bangalore so there's no reason to start with her.

Ignoring whether it would work or not how would players react? You've needlessly given Wraith players another thing to keep track of which will be annoying. Newer players won't be able to adjust to this well at all so the forums would be filled with people complaining about their skill killing them and demanding Wraith gets a buff.

I like that this idea was thought out but I can imagine more negatives than positive to a change that's unnecessary.

  • Symbioticfork5's avatar
    Symbioticfork5
    6 years ago

    @heme725 Great reply, very level headed. Wraith could use a minor fix to offset pick rate / win rate / damage dealt and every other category she's on top of to help balance things out a bit.

    If her phasing ability didn't give 100% immunity to everything. That would be a good fix. Maybe let's say energy weapons disrupt and penetrate the void. That would never happen though, you're changing the characteristics of weapons to deal with a single character in the game, talk about warped.  Maybe she has a 75% damage reduction while phasing instead of 100% with reduced activation time. Ideally if she just took 5% more damage from her awkward stance that would be a good fix. Instead of "Low Profile" it would be called "Lowest Profile".

  • WoahItsTea's avatar
    WoahItsTea
    6 years ago
    @heme725 It will require another learning curve for Wraith and will raise her skill ceiling slightly. With my change her abilities still will rank around the same. Pathfinder recently got a balance to his grapple and I'd say he's still top tier.

    I think it would play out fine if released. Yes, for a week there would be complaints on the forums but afterwards players would adapt. You believe it would be a bad change, I say it would be good. It would have to actually be tested in game to see the results. But I am confident in my ideas.

    Why pick Wraith? She's unique in the fact that she is the only legend who can outright avoid taking damage sometimes. Its an extremely powerful tool in any game to do that. I just think it needs a slight drawback. It's pros currently outweigh the *.

    Thank you for your reply, it was nice to read 🙂
    • SethCurry's avatar
      SethCurry
      6 years ago
      @WoahItsTea Show me a gameplay of you dominating a match with wraith since shes “ broken” and has a get out of Jail card abilities and not unranked match , show me a gameplay of you dominating in Diamond rank in a 1v1 , i love how people complain about a character but probably dont even play the character or know how to use her but love to use the phrase “ op”


      I used to say how broken and how easy it is for pathfinder to zipline until i played him and my reaction time with the grapple was slow and i couldn’t use him then i started questioning if people who played him actually took time to adapt to his plsy style instead of just picking him and automatically became “good”

      So basically your argument is when someone knows how to manoeuvre around with wraith its a problem to you and when they don’t everything is balanced??? LOOL

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