"No, I'm suggesting a sophisticated aim bot would utilize the 3d position, orientation & velocities of both the player, and opponents. With a little interpolation that's all the information needed to make a very accurate aim bot."
Thats the largest pile of word poop Ive ever seen, totally disconnected from reality i.e. how you in practice would design and implement such aim bot as a coder. And btw, like Ive already said; I think its very likely he is using ESP cheats, but there are NO instances at all during this clip where his crosshair is locking onto enemy models in the way aim hacks would make it do (because I presume that those "sophisticated aim bots" that you think exist also can toggle between "pre-lead on a moving target" and "lock on a stationary target" ???? )
But whatever; lets agree to disagree. I know for a fact that no aim hacks in the world can pre-lead the trajectory of someone jumping on a jump pad. But if you want to believe that kind of hacks exist than fine by me. Its your loss really.
for someone who thinks they are in the know for coding hacks doesn't seem to really understand how they even work. Yes aim prediction does in fact exist though these are not publicly sold. Its not as hard as you might think it is as long as you know your math and variables you can create an aimbot that is able to be basically self aware. Though like I have stated though these are normally kept as private programs and they sell the other parts that are more or less commonly known. Some go as far as offering smoothing which takes away the noticeable lock on feature of aimbots though you can still tell when someone is using a cheat program with smoothing added.. You just need to be in the know about it.
Also they are very many streamers who use them too. No names though because thats not good business practice.
Sigh you clown.... Im talking about the specific case from video thats now have been removed because of the forums naming and shaming policy. I know you can code an aim bot that predicts both movement and bullet speed/drop. Its called "Projectile prediction". In fact, I even did a simple example of that for Quake 1 back at University.
But once again. IM TALKING ABOUT THIS SPECIFIC CASE, i.e. I valuated this specific video the OP posted and my conclusion about this video this is that it cant be a case of aim hack. I made this conclusion based on many things, for instance, the spectated players doesnt show any signs of the typical "hard snap" to his target that usually aim hacks does. In fact, he can even freely hover his crosshair up and down his target.
But the main reason, which I also said many times, is that the spectated player starts to pre-lead his crosshair in an arc-shaped trajectory even BEFORE his target has touched the jump pad, and THAT means its not an aim hack but a human predicting the trajectory of the jump pad arc. Or do you think there is an aim hack that can predict someone jumping on a jump pad before it has even happened? Well, that wouldnt be called an Aim hack, but an AI. Sigh....
Well you can try to "correct" us and say that the person isn't hacking, but if we're going to talk about the reasons why without saying, "because of the way the cursor was moving", then there's a couple reasons.
From what I remember from the video (since it's gone now) at around the 20 second mark the guy peeks a corner with a Triple Take and shoots someone. After that they get hit with a longbow round to the head, they drop to cover and take a whopping two seconds to switch to their shield battery. That might not seem like a lot, but two seconds is a pretty long time, I'm sitting at Plat rank and it doesn't even take half a second for me to swap to a battery and use it after I've retreated to cover. If you watch higher skilled players stream, Diamond and up, you'll see that they know exactly what's where and they can swap to each item pretty quickly so they can get back into the fight.
Secondly after the person peeks the corner they make no effort to strafe or make themselves a harder target to hit. At the ring stage they were on (which was pretty close to the final stages) you'd safely assume someone somewhere has a Kraber and you'd move accordingly by strafing, crouching to make yourself a smaller target, and also not re-peeking the same corner over and over again. Instead the guy just stands still for a moment after taking a shot, which is pretty telling.
Adding onto that, after healing the person starts to take shots at the enemies sitting on the roof. The way they're firing is a pretty big indicator that they're cheating. If you noticed, their cursor was always on top of the enemy through an opaque wall despite the enemy moving positions constantly. The guy had no way of knowing where the enemy was through the wall he was taking cover behind, yet his cursor always remained on top of an enemy when he finally peeked to fire. Normally when you corner peek like that, you'd center your cursor to account for all the possible positions an enemy could be, and then you'd flick accordingly. Best example of this is CS:GO. All sites have positions that people play at, and while you can pre-aim positions in CS:GO, you really can't do that here as there's no "correct" position where someone would be playing.
So there you go, three reasons from the bits I remember of the video that aren't, "Their cursor was moving funny." Their reactions are abnormally slow for someone in such a high rank, especially compared to other players of similar rank. Their game sense is pretty poor considering the stage of ring they were on and their choice of how to start an engagement, and finally, their cursor was always centered on top of a target despite not being able to view said targets through an opaque wall, getting headshots pretty frequently.
You know if you're really trying to insist that this person wasn't cheating, you can just search "aimbot apex legends" and see similar footage.
Actually I'll do it since you'll probably just go, "i valuated it and i'm right and you're wrong", here's the video I looked at: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vbmkELTIy1g
Starting at the 2 minute 39 second mark, the cheater is demonstrating my third point, locking onto targets behind a solid walls you can't see through at a distance where it's impossible to see targets without a higher magnification optic because of the red dot sight. Shooting into walls you can't shoot through because the aimbot doesn't know any better.
At the 3 minute and 35 second mark, demonstrating my first point, an abnormally long time taken between being in cover and starting to heal. A whopping three seconds. You might argue the person isn't playing ranked, but I'll argue that at level 9 with 110 kills, you'd have to be pretty quick on your feet to get 12 kills per level.
Lastly at the 5 minute one second mark, compare how the person recording plays vs. the person who is cheating. Person recording immediately makes themselves a smaller target to hit. and quickly strafes back and forth to throw off the cheaters aim. The cheating? Walks in a straight line to the left.
Like Ive said two or three times in previous posts, but you probably just choose to ignore since straw man argumentation is the way to go: I DO think his behavior is really suspicious when it comes to the knowledge he seem to have about other players positions i.e. I think its very likely that he is using ESP hacks, which would go hand in hand with most of your points. But based on how his sight is behaving, both when it comes to pre-leading movement and how it isnt hard snapping to the target, I dont think he is using aim hacks. And yes, Ive watched many many Apex aim bots clips on Youtube and its exactly those Im comparing with when I make this assessment.
And just for the record; the guy landed only 6 out of 18 possible individual Triple take bullets during the jump pad jump , which isn't anything out of the ordinary at Predator skill level. But whatever man: lets agree to disagree; based on my assessment of the video, on his behavior and how his sight is behaving, I dont think he is using aim hack but its very possible that he is using ESP hack and I guess just have to accept that you all are certain he is hacker.
