Knockout Feedback
Its an interesting mode and it just feels like Battle Royal with objectives. Overview: 1) The zones are very hard to identify on the map and in general. 2) The zones appear too early, which ca...
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@Midnight9746
"I wonder if they would ever have a return of other modes, like Dummie's Big Day, Armed and Dangerous...."
You know, I really want to get behind this idea because I believe that in a perfect world there should be no reason not to give the people what they want. I never like these LTMs but I appreciate that other people do and that makes me want to want them.
But I don't want them because the already bad matchmaking in main line modes becomes even worse than normal when these LTMs syphon off players. I've had people claim that doesn't really happen, but it does. Matchmaking has always struggled in this game. Then over the last few seasons (cheaters and smurfs aside) we've had one LTM after another, some running concurrently. Revival, Solos, Quads, and I can't even remember what all else. And matchmaking has never been worse than in these last two seasons. It's not a coincidence.
"I wonder if they would ever have a return of other modes, like Dummie's Big Day, Armed and Dangerous...."
You know, I really want to get behind this idea because I believe that in a perfect world there should be no reason not to give the people what they want. I never like these LTMs but I appreciate that other people do and that makes me want to want them.
But I don't want them because the already bad matchmaking in main line modes becomes even worse than normal when these LTMs syphon off players. I've had people claim that doesn't really happen, but it does. Matchmaking has always struggled in this game. Then over the last few seasons (cheaters and smurfs aside) we've had one LTM after another, some running concurrently. Revival, Solos, Quads, and I can't even remember what all else. And matchmaking has never been worse than in these last two seasons. It's not a coincidence.
@reconzero Something else I wonder is would the game be better if the bots from Bot Royal were better, smarter, and were used in every mode.
The bots would be able to:
- Cut down on que times
- Give casual and new players a chance to enjoy the game
- Can fill ranked matches, (to some degree)
Then again actual bots might not be ideal. In games like Fortnite the bots aren't all that smart and the bosses are either too weak or annoying to fight.
The bots would be able to:
- Cut down on que times
- Give casual and new players a chance to enjoy the game
- Can fill ranked matches, (to some degree)
Then again actual bots might not be ideal. In games like Fortnite the bots aren't all that smart and the bosses are either too weak or annoying to fight.
All these modes are pointless to bring back if the MM isn't going to be addressed. Hard to enjoy all the cool LTM's when you're getting destroyed match after match by pros and streamers and players miles above your pay grade without the MM adjusting to your 20th straight insta boxed matches.
I feel like they test these game types no? Who in their right mind is like remove revival and add knockout?
Since Rumble is currently in rotation for Knockout, I gave the mode another try. My opinion on Knockout has changed, (but not for the better).
- The point system is mostly confusing.
- You can make it to sudden death if you run around collecting EVO harvesters and doing other things that gains EVO points such as scanning survey beacons. I did that in a match as a test, and we only had to fight at the end of the round before sudden death.
- There's no point in killing other players as it awards zero points outside the 5 points per 800 damage dealt towards EVO.
- [Bug] When respawning with your team, you sometimes cannot break off from the jump master
- [Bug] If you get enough points to not get knocked out moments before the round ends, it will still knock you out. I've just had this happened where I got the team enough points to stay in the match a second before the round was over, but the match still knocked out my team despite us qualifying.
Overall, this mode feels like it was meant to be a TDM version of Arenas type of mode, not a Battle Royal mode. When this LTM is over, I won't be missing Knockout. Revival was much better mode than Knockout, it should come back soon.
- @Midnight9746
I've been saying for a long time now that developers need to stop pouring resources into ray tracing and insane graphics and all the other holy grails they keep chasing. When it's painfully obvious to me that the real video game arms race should be to develop bots that are virtually indistinguishable from real players. 343 came closer than anyone with Infinite, but there's still a long way to go. And Respawn would have an even harder time given the complex behaviors of dozens of different legends with different abilities.
But even if they figured it all out tomorrow, I'm pretty sure you'd still have a huge number of players, probably a healthy majority, who would hate or refuse to play against anything other than real people. As in, what's the point of getting a kill if you're not actually ruining some real kid's day?- @reconzero For those who want to fight real players, they would still be able to. Besides, if the bots become decent enough, it would be hard to tell who's who anyways.
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