Leave Penalty A Poor Excuse To Fix A Problem
With the introduction of a leave penalty in game it is clear Respawn have no idea how to fix an issue created by them self. Leave penalty is too easily abused and fails to actually deal with the c...
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@sireladio This is just drama at it's best. I'll address each one of your points.
First,
".... a large amount of the time its the poor servers and net coding fault."
This has largely been fixed. I have not had any kicks or .net or .leaf errors recently. Given the penalty was not active for much of Season 2 ranked, and will only come into effect for Season 3 ranked. This likely won't be an issue. You're just flaming for the sake of attention instead of looking at facts.
Unless of course, you have ISP issues, poor connection issues or otherwise. But those are YOUR issues.
Second,
"The restriction to leave when I am dead if I can be re-spawned is ridiculous...."
Alot of what you said here is your experience, which is subjective and based on who you play with and at what level. It does not speak to the entirety of everyones experience, so please again, stop fanning flames of drama.
If you can be brought back into the game, and you leave, you should be punished. Your squadmates risked picking up your banner and will try to respawn you. Taking squads on 2 vs 3 is nearly impossible at higher rank unless you have an element of surprise. Therefore, they NEED to respawn you.
It's starting to sound like you're part of the leaver problem if you like to leave before you can be respawned. Hence, this punishment is for you 🙂
Third and Final,
"This whole issue stems from one issue. No solo or Duo que in Apex..."
As with many others, it just sounds like you could care less about teammates, their experience and team based play. You simply want to play an FPS game where you are only accountable for yourself. Well, bad news Pepega, Apex Legends was built around team based play, strategy and outcome. Ranked will always encompass that.
I hope they bring back solo's just for you, so you can leave people in ranked team based play alone.
So there you have it, thanks for flaming the forum with drama with your frustration. Please now, move on.
Just a comment on your first line: "With the introduction of a leave penalty in game it is clear Respawn have no idea how to fix an issue created by them self."
The "problem" is entirely created by us players, where some people insist to play it with random people, with random play styles, with random competitiveness, with random experience, and random try-hardness AND with the expectations that these factors will be exactly according to their preferences.
These guys will NEVER be satisfied. If Respawn hypothetically implements a perma-ban the first game you leave, thus solving the "leaver problem" forever, people will come here crying about certain behaviors of your random team mate. "Boho my randoms dont try to pick up my banner or revive me at all times", "my randoms arent skilled enough", "my randoms wont push when I push/snipe when I snipe" "my randoms dont ping and communicate in the manner that Im used to" etc etc.
So there is no solution to this "problem" other than this: get some gaming friends (easiest via Discord I guess).
@Babbediboopi wrote:
Just a comment on your first line: "With the introduction of a leave penalty in game it is clear Respawn have no idea how to fix an issue created by them self."The "problem" is entirely created by us players, where some people insist to play it with random people, with random play styles, with random competitiveness, with random experience, and random try-hardness AND with the expectations that these factors will be exactly according to their preferences.
These guys will NEVER be satisfied. If Respawn hypothetically implements a perma-ban the first game you leave, thus solving the "leaver problem" forever, people will come here crying about certain behaviors of your random team mate. "Boho my randoms dont try to pick up my banner or revive me at all times", "my randoms arent skilled enough", "my randoms wont push when I push/snipe when I snipe" "my randoms dont ping and communicate in the manner that Im used to" etc etc.
So there is no solution to this "problem" other than this: get some gaming friends (easiest via Discord I guess).
While you say the problem is created by players I disagree on the basis there is no alternative. Most BR games allow for different amount of players . Normally 4 ,3,2,1. Apex however fails to give this option.
Due to this the only option ingame is playing with randoms. When you take this into account the issue is based on respawn for failing to give basic BR modes.
Next you blame the players however fail to blame respawn. There is no ingame group finder. There is no real way to easily find people of your skill. Inside tthe game.
If respawn wanted to force groups a built in group finder like overwatch has would have been an obvious route.
Also you blame players for being random. Sorry to tell you even in a perfect world people will play there own way. Due to this you are now punishing people who have no alternative and for doing what comes naturally.
Respawn is to blame for the issue 100%. Saying ow well find a group in discord is a ridiculous excuse. When solo and duo is a fixtured game mode then we can talk about suspension and bans for leaving in group matchs. However until these become fixtures the issue is not dealt with.
Remember. If respawn punish you for DC there will be major issues. So respawn have to make DC's imune from punishment. If this is the case it takes even the most computer illiterate user 5 minutws to work out they can easily Dc and skirt the ban.
Next is the issue of griefing. If i thought of ways to abuse people with it so will others. This then creates anothwe issue and doesnt even fix the core issue.
Sorry but this punishment system is a flawed concept by people complaining cause randoms leave. Whats next? Bans for failing to respawn? Suspensions for not picking up banners. Its stupid and people who think this os gpong to Improve the game are seriously mistaken. Expect the player base to drop again once it comes into affext
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@sireladio wrote:
Expect the player base to drop again once it comes into affext
Maybe the ones that leave games prematurely, never pick up your banners, or solo drop somewhere else on the map away from your squad? We hope once this goes into effect it's not going to deter anyone from playing more nor do we want players to feel like they're being "punished."
There's a lot of forum posts though from others that feel too many players are solo jumping elsewhere or just not being patient enough to wait for teammates to grab their banner. Ranked is competitive and this feature in sense should help encourage others to reach a common goal of moving up the ladder.
It might seem like a long time spectating your teammate and hopefully they give you some signal they'll go for your banner, but there times when going for the banner is simply just too risky. If you timed out and want to earn more RP, put faith in your teammate and continue to spectate. Toss out some calls for them that might make the difference between 5th place and 3rd. Can't tell you how many times some teammates quit early and still finished top 3 by myself.
nothing will ever stop me from leaving as long as I keep ending up with squad that does 80 damage in several squad fights and fully geared, the only progress i see here is me removing this game from my computer, it is insane how bad can people be.... fresh example 2 of us are fighting and our 3d guy is looting, and i mean slowly going from box to box and taking what he needs than hides and leave our banner as he runs away, I am seeing players level 100+ not being able to land, everyone has a bad day but the randoms I keep running into are like a punishment for my nervs. They are USELESS. More I am thinking more I am getting to a conclusion that F2P is bad for this game
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