@xIronFist42xThis is genuine info from someone who leaves once I establish I'm going to get 0 cooperation from team-mates. You'll forgive any assumptions here I hope, as this advice is for someone who might be a lot newer than you two are. If so: apologies in advance for teaching you to suck eggs 🙂 Whilst I accept we were all new once and that there is a rich and varied tapestry of different play levels - if you're going to have a random in your group :
1) make sure you use voice chat so you can communicate. I'm less inclined immediately to help anyone when I see they're in private voice chat at the start of the game.
2)Don't panic loot everything - try to cultivate an awareness of what you actually need instead of grabbing everything to sort through at leisure - especially at the start of the game this will alienate more experienced team mates as that 20 light ammo you just grabbed for your havoc might be what keeps them alive :D
3) Show willing by sharing ammo/meds, especially at the start. I've left games before now when I've seen someone picking up literally 100+ of ammo while I'm on 17 and then refusing to drop any, especially when they're not the one plowing face-first into enemy teams. If someone is stood looking at a shield battery it means they're making space to collect it because it's more important than something they've already got, so don't slide between their legs and grab it.
4) Ping primary weapons that you're not going to grab at the start. If someone doesn't have armor yet - ping armor.
5) Communicate that you need someone to wait if you do, and explain why. Tell the guy running off what you're looking for if you're still looting. Chances are good that the person charging towards the noise at skulltown has enough that they can spare some. Better players will loot faster and more comprehensively as they know exactly what is enough for their first fight. If they didn't grab something you need, they'll probably remember which building it is in at your drop site.
My experience really is that I will stick around to the death for people who are trying to play WITH their team. You guys being a duo inviting someone in as your 3rd means there's a dynamic where if you don't include someone in your game, they'll be a crap team mate to you no matter how good they are as a player. If your 3rd gets the impression that they're only going to get ammo/meds etc by beating you to them, the whole thing becomes counterproductive. Most will just start sprinting off on their own to get ahead, some (like me) will just leave in search of greener pastures.
Everyone who queues solo accepts that they're just as likely to get into a game with people less experienced than them as not if they've played for an average amount of time. Everyone who has played a LOT knows that they're incredibly likely to get into a game with team mates who haven't played as much as them. When you see someone's banner you're waiting for them to confirm all your prejudices about how people with x, y, z stats play. If I see someone with 35 kills who picked my main whilst I was hovering over him, I'm waiting to see if the guy doesn't break off from jumpmaster and if he starts spamming the resource bin I just opened - I know who I'm dealing with then.
The way to avoid team-mates leaving is to avoid confirming that kind of prejudice. Some players will leave anyway if you use the legend they main. Some will drop solo and leave when they die as they're farming kills or whatever. Some won't wait to see if you're team players or not. Of the players you can realistically retain as team-mates - all we want to know is that you're team players.
Lastly : don't drop bunker 😛
@Anlbrd Thanks for the genuine feedback and comments. Especially points 1 and 2.
When in a party we only allow communication within the party because I don't want someone raging whilst my daughter is listening. So we have to make sure to ping lots at the beginning to send out the "we're team players" impression.
Also, I do what you call "panic" loot at the beginning out of habit now. Mostly from playing with randoms who do the same and feel like if I dont theres a good chance I won't be ready for that first engagement. Seems like the better players do the same and then take off running. I've found the best strategy for me is to "panic" loot then drop extras after the inital battles. Never considered that sent the message of not being a team player to some, good to know.
That all said, I feel like we are good team players, probably above average from what I've experienced. We rarely leave a game, leave a player down, or not go for a teammates banner. We even stay in games when our party connection gets dropped from the lobby to the legend selection screen so as not to leave that squad at a disadvantage.
So I dont think people leaving our squad prematurely is from our lack of teamwork, it seems to be our lack of skill compared to the better players who leave wanting a better chance for a competitive match. Most people want a competitive match whatever the skill level, don't you think? Or do you like the mismatching if the skill and the challenge of carrying novice players?
Personally, I prefer mostly competitive games with a few really tough and easy matches sprinkled in. I realize this is a BR so wins are not the norm, I just want to be able to win a couple few battles before going down in a blaze of glory. Recent experience has been almost all really tough and brutal matches
i gotta be honest, i sued to do panic loot. I took 3 days to completely stick a finguer to whoever wanted it, and took my time taking a look at my loot, now i dont panic loot, what you saying the better players panic loot, they dont. they already know what they need or not depending on their loadout, so they just go and grab ONLY WHAT THEY NEED, making it look super fast, cuz they already got the info and knowledge. Also IF TYHEY ACCIDENTLY GRAB STUFF, YOU SHOULD KNOW WHAT YOU CAN KEEP RUNNING, WHILE PRESSING TAB AND DROPPING STUFF,. That way you can get rid of the stuff u dont want and keep mving. You gotta be fast tho, other wise once you know, your team is in skull town and your finally decided what you dont need and you already arriving in the slums
@Anlbrd and @A7RDF ...maybe the good players are getting just what they need, REALLY FAST. Generally I try to loot in a different area than my squad mates while staying in the same proximity as my squad, when the situation allows, to avoid the intra-squad race for loot. I'll try to unlearn the "panic" method and get better at looting more judiciously 🙂
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