[Megathread] Pathfinder Changes Feedback

Then go get yourself a glasses.

Wraith is the most picked legend,19 out of 20 picks. And this was only from one of the qualifier.

Pathfinder was picked from 12 out of 20 teams. Which speaks for itself.

In top 20 he was picked 99,99% from every single team.

Go look at the charts from every region, aka North America, South America, Europe, Oceanic, Korea, Japan and so on.

And bring us the charts so we can all see how much exactly Pathfinder was picked, yeah exactly in 99,99% of the time.

The fact is, Path, Wraith is the most picked character in pub, ranked and in tournament place.

The nerf is very well deserved. He should not get away with it. 35 seconds is ideal. Good job Respawn.

@LordloshBangOkay bronze 4 player, back minecraaft with you and let the grown ups speak.

Wanna try 1vs1 ?

Pretty sure i know the game better than you.

Pretty sure Respawn know the game better than you.

The nerf is deserved 1000%.

20 or 22 seconds change nothing.

Pathfinder is where it needs to be .
If you don`t like it, go play Warone or switch to other legends.

https://www.gfinityesports.com/article/2870/apex-legends-season-5-characters-ranked-and-tier-list-guide

From people who actually knows this game. Pathfinder still lands on S tier. Maybe change to A tier, which will still be great for him, when we have in mind for how long he was top 2 character.

Still at worst he is a top 5 legend currently. So all the crying is exactly this crying from a babies, that were used to abuse a broken tactical that was insanely OP with low CD.

I don`t care if they take the fun out of you. Its all about the balance, and Pathfinder tactical deserved this nerf, and it was given.

Go on continue to cry a river.

Won`t lose more time with you. You won`t change a s*****.

@LordloshBangI mean yeah we can 1v1, just odnt cry to me afterwards... I have been predator for 2 seasons and have 5kdr 800-900adr while you are sitting with your * on bronze celebrating the path nerf. You will still get pooped on tho, path nerf or not, so you dont really have any reason to celebrate... plus I doubt that you ever played against any decent pathfinders thanks to SBMM.

In other words you are literally entirely skillless and yet think you can somehow have an opinion on how game balance should look like. Please, get good at the game and then come back to the forums.

pathfinder pickrate s5: from 20% to 1%

bronze 4 players on forums: "tHe NeRf WaS NeCesSaRy G🤭d JoB rEsPaWn"

Then put your words where your mouth is!  Lets go 1v1 and see who actually is skilled and who is not, acc name and lets see. I will stream so everyone see this.

One predator already cried.

And dummy, everyone can talk and share their opinion.

What your doing is crying like a baby, who`s OP toy has been taken.

If the DEVS decide to tune him down, there was a reason, or you actually think you know better than them as well ? You are living in some fantasy world then.  

You are not the capacity.

Everyone with a brain knows that every competitive game is balanced at highest possible level. 

As far as for the others cry babies on here, let me state this:

I`m not the one that is crying over a balance change, over a broken and abused tactical, that should have been nerfed long ago, you are the ones, who is doing the cries. 
So actually this is very telling of your actual skill in the game, aka AIM and strafing/moving abilities. You were use to abuse a completely broken tactical with low CD, that was allowing you to get away and carry your ****. If you can`t adapt, this only speaks that you lacks the skill and you were relying on a broken tactical, that was getting you away from a sticky situation. 15 seconds and even less with golden helmet, were absurd and allowing you to do abuse it for so long and to sh*** on other legends/player.
If you can`t manage to you use your grapple with brain and actually thinking, then you obviously are lacking fundamentals skill.

This is a FPS, a shooting game first, and no ability should carry your untalented ****.

That was from me. With joy.

Let the cry begin. You won`t change nothing, because all of this crying, only show Respawn that you are low skilled, who was abusing a broken tactical, that should have been nerfed long ago.

@LordloshBangSounds like you have been destroyed by a lot of Pathfinders 😂

.....all of your takes on the matter are way off btw. For a lot of us this wasn't just a FPS like any other, and the reason was Pathfinder was a fun legend because of his mobility and what made the game stand out.

But now they just made him useless and no fun......and a lot are moving on from Apex. But i think you will be fine with that (and confirm my oppening statement).

We can always discuss if the grabble needed neefing - when taking into account that it was balancing out the he has weak passive and ultimate and the biggest hitbox of the legends with increased damage - but this wasn't a nerf.....the killed him. That's why we are complaining.

its funny that ppl bitching about path being op got him nerfed to *. then tell us not to *? ok. yeah a 50% nerf to my main would get me to quit playing any game too. they went over %100.

was fun playing the flying squishy side of a barn, whilst Wraiths scurried under my nose like trying to shoot a fly buzzing around the room. but yeah no thanks, just cause they couldn't think of another idea for the next legend other than THIS ONES FAST TOO.. At least they didn't have to diminish the other fast Legend to keep the new one from TRULY being OP. because Path gets shot out of the air all the time being the barn door that he is. The new legend couldn't have near a 15 second cool down without being completely broken but then next to a path she would seem useless at least as mobility is concerned, which i get its kinda her thing too.

Grapple doesn't help much during fights anyways it has a lot of downsides too.. you can shoot or you can grapple, so tell me how not shooting is beneficial to combat? If there is high ground you can get to and heal, you're very likely leaving your team to fight a 2v3. the only broken part about grapple is running late behind the zone or sneaky solid snaking your way up team placement in ranked after your team dies (which you can do with any legend and path isn't the only one that can get away if he is caught).

Not even mad but yeah hey EA! this paying customer is out.☹️

You literally killed path in front of us in the first 2 seconds of season 5 like you guys thought it was funny. Might as well just take him out of rotation and make him the dummy. Path only games with no tactical cool down.

Path needed this nerf, the cooldown was too short. It was cancer to literally fight a path and the moment he takes any significant damage runs away and is uncatchable unless he is being chased by another pathfinder.

His hitbox on itself its a mess with registration and that on itself makes him strong as well. Wraith got nerfed to the ground and has not been buffed at all and currently is actually a slow character. Pathfinder players actually need to focus and make decisions now instead of taking 15 damage and running then coming back to high ground to get the drop on someone. 

Cancer character I hope respawn keeps the Cooldown as is. 

Another pathetic attempt. Destroyed by a lot of pathfinder? Ahahahahha, nice joke. I can be destroyed by a lot of legends i won`t mind it.  I never care i to be okay. I care for overall game balance, unlike jacks like you, who are use to play stronger characters, get away with it, and abuse it.

You can check my post history i have never ever created a thread asking a single nerf for any of the legends. I may comment in threads, but i never lose time with this. You get it?

The way i see it, you are the one that is crying about Pathfinder, because you lack skill and were use to be carry by your legends OP tactical - Facts !!!


Mobility, mobility and mobility. This is a FPS game after all. Legends and abilities are there to give it a different feeling. 

And the game is supposed to be fun for all, you know, not for a certain playerbase, because their legend is broken ?!!

Abilities are there to help and give you a strategic approach, not to be a complete game changer and to mindless spamming them, which was the case with Wraith phase before all the nerfs and Pathfinder grapple. They actually left it OP for way too long.

And i watch plenty of pro players  and plenty of streamers, and people still play Pathfinder, who was overly used before. He is still overly used, but people are now trying the new character Loba, so its not normally his pick rate to drop at the beginning.

You know we could have have a normal discussion at the start, before all the craps attacks against me.

I dont know what streams you been watching, but all the pros I watched - North, Alliance, TSM etc stopped picking Path almost entirely.

And I never felt my gameplay ruined by Pathinders when I palyed Wraith, Octane, Lifeline. NEVER.

If you did, thats because you are a salty loser.

@LordloshBangJust a quick comment to your mobility-comments. You say it's a FPS and we should just get good and not focus on mobility.

This game is build on the principle of some legends have defensive power that can lock buildings down or protect squads, others have offensive powers and some have powers in terms of positioning etc......and pathfinder is a scout and based on mobility. So no, it's not just a FPS and that was the great part. But take away his scout feature (the grabble) and he's is worthless - a nerf could be ok, but they went way to far and removed the whole idea of playing him.....and that's sad, when we liked playing him and would have liked to do so in S5 also - but you cant/wont see that?

"FUN" fact - Pathfinder pickrate went from 22% in S4 to just 10% in S5.....if that is what Respawn wants, then I feel sorry for all the Wraith mains 'cause then she will be destroyed next.

WOW 250 RESPONSES TO THIS, YOU GUYS ARE SAYING RESPAWNS CRAZY, BUT LOOK AT THIS.....

IT'S LIKELY A TEMPORARY NERF AWAY THAT PATHFINDER NEEDED FOR ONE, BUT TWO IT GAVE MIRAGE AND LOBA A CHANCE TO SHINE! LIKELY TO GIVE TO TIME FOR A OCTANE BUFF AS WELL. NOW YES 35 secs is a BIT MUCH! I think they will reduce it to 20-25 secs, but being able to GRAPPLE EVERY 15 SECS WAS WAY TOO OP, again it's just like Wraith tactical: DON'T KILL ME/ GET OUT OF JAIL CARD. Just everyone please be patient. You guys have had 4 seasons to enjoy Pathfinder, but guys like me who MAIN OCTANE or other legends have waited 4 seasons waiting FOR ANYTHING!!!!!!!! So yes I believe Path deserves to lose the spotlight and you guys need to learn to become true legends and work your way around it. It's not insane, it's just a new challenge. And true legends overcome challenges. Peace Out Amigos!

@031567 Path can be shot while grappling, and you can fail a grapple, so the cooldown has to be lower than wraith's tactical. And 15 secs cd on Path's grapple would let you mess around in-between fights, like spinning around jump towers and stuff, fun memories.

@031567 Path isn’t invincible while using his grapple. So 15 seconds is not overpowered. Octane can use his stim with only a second or two of cooldown and if you have good movement skills you can get out of a fight to heal just as easily as a path (plus you can bunny hop heal with octane stim which no other champ can do). Just because octane “deserves” a spotlight doesn’t mean pathfinder deserves a sledgehammer nerf. Octane does deserve a huge buff, for example if his jump pad airspeed was made a lot faster it would make it more useful for team rotations since he already gets it frequently. Hopefully it is a temporary change but no one character should have a “spotlight” they should all be iconic in their own way and should all be enjoyed by whoever enjoys their play style. There shouldn’t be a time limit on character enjoyment (ie 4 seasons like you said). A character should always be fun, respawn should have buffed octane long ago.