[Megathread] Pathfinder Changes Feedback

Let me again explain in simple terms, path needs a nerf but not a direct 35 sec a 20 sec buff in plenty, As so Octane needs a speed buff, as both of them can get get down while using their ability, Wraith is okay as she is, she had a 10 sec add few season back, not a 1.5 x multiplier! if it would have been a the same 1.5x it would be a 50 sec cooldown, which sounds awful, when ever a legend is picked disproportionately a nerf will come, as Pro's will abuse it, and it comes down to KITS, Path is a Forward scouting legend and if you think that the 35 sec cool down is justified, then your not just meant for high speed mobility games. No one cares about what rank one is at, When pro's point out a fault it is a fault, People like Shroud said " they did it to in order to make Loba more  attractive, Loba can essentially do was path did. Even Tsm albralelie said they have Gutted path, to a point he stopped picking path, the pick rate of path fell to 10% now. 

Don't be salty and ignorant, talk with facts and from a games perspective and KIT's perspective, even to this day i said Waith's cool down should be same as loda to a 30 sec cool down as it is an ability when used the legend won't take damage, and in a game like Apex a 5 sec cut is a huge cut, as fights don't last that long. 

No hate or animosity towards anyone, we are here to discuss and talk about our complains, using terms like"'Crybaby" calling out names and stuff isn't cool man.

Peace.   

Path is still a heavy picked legend, tho after this nerf. Try again.

DARAPTURE07, nice argument, because of my behavior i don`t care for overall balance, what ?

The legend i play recently - Wraith i was happy with all the nerfs she gets through the last season. This can be checked.

And you can check my profile, i never ever play Loba. I probably have less than 5 games with her, so again you are totally wrong.

 This is a thread for the changes. And the changes, so everyone could give his feedback, esp when its come with arguments like mine, not just sore crying.

I got hold of this place from a Fb group and they were right, I can see some weak people with mediocre aim and  movement blaming everything on Legend being Op, Because of people like you they slaughtered Wraith, then Path, And buffed legends like Gas skunk and hologram trash ! If you played titan fall or any fast shooting game, you wouldn't be blaming Legends being Op, You just suck at it, go and play more, you can't  compete with a guy who has 2,000 Hours and you who play 2/3 matches daily, there's a huge difference! Thank you for demotivating people and letting them know you are bad at fast movement game and everyone should suffer due to one's bad gaming skills, if this goes on Apex will die out like Battlefield !     

@SopranoRanger99I know it feels like a long time ago and place far far away.

I wish they’d give me a Apex Vanilla server like what they got in WOW.

I knew Apex wasn’t getting worked on by the same dev team the moment the year anniversary came and the game was more buggy than that of the launch game.

You could say I’m extremely tired with their incompetence that a vanilla server would change that feeling.
Just pre-everything, heck I’m even all up for the new legends, no nerfs, but the buffs ok.

I remember the first day I played (Pathfinder) I thought scanning the beacon on top of bridges was being helpful lol.

Now the game is an RPG lmao and no this isn’t no joke.

And who the **** are you, to think that you know better than the DEVS ? 

Of course you won`t be happy with the balance changes they are doing, because you were using OP legends.

The way you talk about Gibby is obvious that you are a spoiled kid, who was use to abuse a legend that are way better than the rest of the cast.

And you know nothing about me and what legend i actually play, so don`t talk about me, okay? You didn`t follow the conversation for what legends i was and play now, but you are giving your opinion, when you don`t know the facts ? Sweet.

 And no there was tons of crying from Wraith players when the nerfs starting to come.

But Devs actually have information and a real feedback from game, which tells the whole story, not a feedback from cry babies, that someone took their precise toy.

Everyone who really understand the game knows, that Path passive on ranked/high gamelevel of play is a precise tool, that helps your team tremendously. His ultimate is insanely useful and could get you to a place no one else could go. Its useful in so many situation.

And everyone knows that taking a high ground in a fight is a huge + into your gameplay. And this is just one of the things for which you can use your tactical - grapple. Its worked for so many things, it was versatile as ******. 

Reposition during a fight, go into miles away(no other legends can chase a pathfinder, he just disappear from battle, heal and come back in a no time, cause his grapple CD was a joke.

Changed it to be 20 seconds will change what exactly or 25? No legend should be allowed to use such a powerful tool, multiple times during a fight. And Pathfinder was allowed to stay way too OP for way too long.

You can cry as much as you want, but Wraith and Path was the most picked legend, and there was a reason for that.

I'll remind people of the rules here: https://answers.ea.com/t5/AHQ-Announcements/New-EA-Forum-Rules-amp-Guidelines/td-p/6075534

Keep things civil in your discussions, don't insult or cast aspersions, and keep your criticisms constructive. 

The devs need to reconsider pathfinder, as he is a mobility character the 35 sec cool down seems absurd and downright punishing, as it seems like they are discouraging high mobility fast gameplay. 

@LordloshBang

Well the track history of the developers changing things which were design choices.

Spoiled? Lol no I respect the TRINITY. Which revolves around certain roles being fulfilled by certain Hero’s.

The reason people played Wraith and Pathfinder was because they was fun even when the game became boring.

Pathfinder isn’t invincible nor is he immune when grappling, if you can’t kill him I’d suggest going to target practice.
If you think Pathfinders grapple isn’t situational than what happens when you’re fighting in doors or around a place where there’s no high ground like you suggest.

If you think Loba’s tactical isn’t the best mobility tactical in the game currently than you haven’t realised it’s true potential. She can escape building especially through windows with the bars, her bracelet travels further than Pathfinders grapple whilst she is invulnerable like Wraiths tactical but for longer. All that with a shorter CD=Cooldown.

I don’t know any MMO I play that has an ability +30s CD unless it is a DCD = Defensive Cooldown. So is Wraith and Pathfinder tactical a DCD now? Because this is what it is sounding like.

@Supremest01Very interesting I never even thought of a energy based pistol, I always wanted a energy SMG whether it’s the one from Titanfall or not. I still feel like the L-Star was a wasted opportunity for a SMG especially when we already had a energy LMG. I would have preferred a light rounds LMG instead.

I think we need the Devs involvement so path get's fixed ? Opinion ? 

they should remove path from low profile ! if not remove from the game, not enjoying him at all !

The 3rd smallest hitbox model in the game deserve to have low profile, otherwise give him Giby hitbox and remove it.

He is perfectly fine. And more and more people start playing him again, after they get enough with the new legend, which was normal.

He is in a great place and should not be touched.

:3 i guess some people got so owned by path that they are too blind to see the problem ! 

The Path nerf seemed like a lot to me, and it still does, but there are many people who can still use him well. 

Seems like everyone just kind of gave up on ol' Pathy even though he still brings a lot of stuff to the table. He can still slingshot himself a far distance, but now he can't just slap it down every 20 seconds or so.

If he seems unusable to you, it could be because you aren't playing him right, or something like that.

Let me correct you. I guess some people were heavily cared by the ridiculous stupid 15 seconds CD, and they get away with charging from miles away, and when the things get rough, they were getting away. Charging in and out and being able to done that multiple times during a fight was completely OP.

Everyone knows in this game that high ground is a huge advatnage and even more when we talk about equal skilled players, high ground always going to give you advantage.

Pathfinder should not be allowed to take a high ground, take a free shot at you, because you don`t know where he is, and being able to change his position again, and be able to do that in 15 seconds.

20 or 25 seconds are still going to allow him to do that. And with gold helmet(which are not hard to acquire) the situation is even worst.

Chasing or being chased by Pathfinder was a nightmare. Right now the other legends have easier time, but still skilled players is a nightmare to mess with.

This is an FPS game after all, abilities should not affect the gameplay that f***** much as is was before.

Like the Wraith phase before it was nerfed, same with Pathfinder and so on.

The game was focused too heavy around Wraith and Pathfinder for way too long, and thats why a lot of people was spoiled and are now crying hard.

Tho this characters are still the top of the mountain.

The changes should have come way earlier, and all legends should have been viable way earlier.