[Megathread] Pathfinder Changes Feedback
You just killed him, RIP Path 😢
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The devs need to reconsider pathfinder, as he is a mobility character the 35 sec cool down seems absurd and downright punishing, as it seems like they are discouraging high mobility fast gameplay.
@GreeeeeeDyy Yeah well we should have known by now, two new snipers back to back. CQC will always be the best the reason most of us loved Skulltown but yet again we got nerfed. We should’ve never got two new snipers but two new SMGs or a SMG and a Shotgun.
- @DARAPTURE07 yeah ! they need to put some new guns in ! like a energy ammo based pistol seems will be so interesting, but a lot of creativity is needed.
@Supremest01Very interesting I never even thought of a energy based pistol, I always wanted a energy SMG whether it’s the one from Titanfall or not. I still feel like the L-Star was a wasted opportunity for a SMG especially when we already had a energy LMG. I would have preferred a light rounds LMG instead.
- @DARAPTURE07 i think a energy based high power pistol might work as a wing man ! I hate the L-star idk where the bullets are going!!!
- @Supremest01 Or a Energy Shotgun! Oh wait we got the Triple Take never mind.
I think we need the Devs involvement so path get's fixed ? Opinion ?
they should remove path from low profile ! if not remove from the game, not enjoying him at all !
The 3rd smallest hitbox model in the game deserve to have low profile, otherwise give him Giby hitbox and remove it.
He is perfectly fine. And more and more people start playing him again, after they get enough with the new legend, which was normal.
He is in a great place and should not be touched.
:3 i guess some people got so owned by path that they are too blind to see the problem !
The Path nerf seemed like a lot to me, and it still does, but there are many people who can still use him well.
Seems like everyone just kind of gave up on ol' Pathy even though he still brings a lot of stuff to the table. He can still slingshot himself a far distance, but now he can't just slap it down every 20 seconds or so.
If he seems unusable to you, it could be because you aren't playing him right, or something like that.
Let me correct you. I guess some people were heavily cared by the ridiculous stupid 15 seconds CD, and they get away with charging from miles away, and when the things get rough, they were getting away. Charging in and out and being able to done that multiple times during a fight was completely OP.
Everyone knows in this game that high ground is a huge advatnage and even more when we talk about equal skilled players, high ground always going to give you advantage.
Pathfinder should not be allowed to take a high ground, take a free shot at you, because you don`t know where he is, and being able to change his position again, and be able to do that in 15 seconds.
20 or 25 seconds are still going to allow him to do that. And with gold helmet(which are not hard to acquire) the situation is even worst.
Chasing or being chased by Pathfinder was a nightmare. Right now the other legends have easier time, but still skilled players is a nightmare to mess with.
This is an FPS game after all, abilities should not affect the gameplay that f***** much as is was before.
Like the Wraith phase before it was nerfed, same with Pathfinder and so on.
The game was focused too heavy around Wraith and Pathfinder for way too long, and thats why a lot of people was spoiled and are now crying hard.
Tho this characters are still the top of the mountain.
The changes should have come way earlier, and all legends should have been viable way earlier.
- @LordloshBang You act as if there is literally no counter to highground. You can rotate to zone, you can play under the lip of highground, you can throw grenades to force them off highground, you can uhhh shoot them? off the highground? You don’t just stand in one spot and give up and let them shoot you 😂 It wasn’t overpowered at all. You know who else can get to highground? Revenant, Octane and Loba, also every champion has this ability to climb. Path is different because he’s fun. You said path should not be able to get highground so when you talk it sounds like you want a BR game where everyone is fighting on a flat surface 10km long. Fight engagement with a pathfinder chasing you is interesting because if both people have 200 hp then it’s an even fight and you can both kill each other even if he grapples on you, the better aim wins. I assume what frustrates you is when you get beamed for like 100 damage from a pathfinder on highground and then he grapples onto you and kills you. In this case yes he has an advantage because he dealt damage to you and now has more health than you, so maybe being more aware of your surroundings would help and not playing out in the open would allow you to fight and get a heal off so when he does chase you you can kill him. Nerfing his grapple doesn’t change this. Also out of your continuous posting you keep complaining that other champions should have a chance to be in the spotlight, instead of nerfing the champs you hate how about buffing the champs you like? Power creep is a pretty reliable friend! No one is going to take your posts seriously if you keep swearing and telling people they’re crying, you think devs wanna spend their time reading that?
Some people just wanna bring everyone down to their level instead of trying to improve, that's what killed Overwatch, smh.
@Sir_NamedSome people use Octane well, does that make him balanced? Nah.
Everyone gave up on Path (including me, a sweaty main) cause he's not fun to play anymore, being able to roam the map and just slingshot around is what was so good about him. Ye sure I can still carry games as Path, but why would I play him if it's not fun?- @Sir_Named as most times in Apex 3rd parties are common and taking on 2 teams or falling back takes a bit of time, even today i tried him, a Gibi with a Red Evo, a caustic with a Purple evo, they are very hard to take down with 1 clipping A R99! maybe back in season 4 i could have fall back and heal, and both my team mates were down ! If not at least he shouldn't take more damage ! not asking for fortified but taking too much damage now seem cruel, and path can easily be shot down while in mid air!
Power creep should be low in this game, aka legends ability. They did not nerf his graple, they nerf the CD, because it was a joke at 15 seconds, 20 or 25 seconds is a joke as well. Abilities should not be spammable as this one was.
As far as high ground goes, its a huge advantage and everyone knows it. Path can rotate to whatever the f**** he wanted with that 15 seconds CD joke and could move from a place to place, and this gave him incredible edge.
High ground is a high ground, everyone who is not biased knows it has huge advantage over flat zone. And Pathfinder still have this, its just not spammable, as it shouldn`t be from the very beginning.
And i never said he should not be able to go to the high ground and take advatnage of that, this is his advantages compare to other legends, as far as other things, but graple should not be spammable, because its that useful for any situations.
As far as the legends goes. Octane is pure garbage, as well as his jump pad, so he does not have Pathfinder capabilities The moment you decide to use his ultimate against skilled players, is the moment you are going to get rekt.
No one at top level is even trying to use him.
As far as Loba goes, yeah she has the abilities to go the high grounds, but not to the places where Path could goes, also her ability has a time, before you can teleport, and you are easy target, during that time. Her abilities are less powerful when she is trying to chase or trying to escape, compare to the Path one. And her CD is long as well. It`s 30 seconds if i`m not wrong.
As far as Pathfinder chasing, no it`s not an even battle. Don`t know how can you even mention this.
it was a pain when you are trying to chase Path or trying to escape. It was mission impossible, even if you had the lead.
As far as just buff others, don`t touch the OP one, balance not work that way.
And no one gave on Path, best Pathfinder on the world is still playing him - Albralelie, which speaks for itself. He use Wraith and Pathfinder now.
What Respawn did is exactly what they should have done long time ago.The game was a 2 legends fest, which was a complete joke, when you have 13 legends.
Path and Wraith was infront of everyone, because they have insanely good team abilities and in the same time they have insane escape mechanism abilities.
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- @LordloshBang Let me correct you.
You think it’s a FPS? 😂
At best it’s an FPRPG, so go collect them treasure packs.
It’s never been an actual FPS as I have told you previously. It was a Hybrid of different genres.
First-person shooters often focus on action gameplay, with fast-paced and bloody firefights.
Whereas what you want and what the game is doesn’t revolve around that, right now. - Albralelie drooped to 32th world wide now in terms of kills, he doesn't main path, mostly Loba! Get your fact's right !
- @DARAPTURE07 stop wasting time Bro, he hates fast paced game "end of discussion"
Apex dropped a new skin For path which is 29 sec :v shorter then path's Cool down ! talk about agony ! The Devs are just now being savages. Apex will die like overwatch, and 2june people will move to the new game ! People will stop playing this "Level Playing field Slow paced" game and the hype will die out of this boring Legends by a blind studio !
- @LordloshBang Why are you saying they didn’t nerf his grapple? Was you not around last season they changed the execution time of the grapple.
You literally talk complete toilet waste.
Stop defending Loba and her OP tactical because it is probably one of the best tacticals in the game currently.
I tell you what, they should have done. Buffed the other legends that needed buffing by bringing them up to the same scale as the others.
The problem is Respawn data doesn’t provide if the legend is fulfilling their role, win rates, pick rates and kill rates doesn’t mean a role is being fulfilled. You can’t claim Lifeline is OP at her role by that data nor can you with Pathfinder.
Just because you struggle with Pathfinder in certain situations means you should learn to better execute a strategy, I bet I’d still 1v1 you without any abilities and win.
You’re the type of player to make great emphasis on why or how you lose to a Pathfinder meaning you haven’t learned yet and the game has been out a year.
Honestly this is a git gud moment because you don’t want Pathfinder back in the game. So you use the argument, that he dropped to 32 in terms of kills, which proves nothing, he is a top 10 player, and from TMS, that won like most of the tournaments out there, but you use the argument that he is not playing Path, but still stay he dropped to 32 ? :D Thats
Nice try.
And of course he will try Loba, as everyone out there, its a new legends, and the game always work that way.But he ain`t maining Loba.
As i gave a video of a serious gameplay in Scrim. You know what scrim is anyway ? :DTrying out new character and playing out for fun are something different, from serious matches, right ?
And he is still playing Pathfinder and Wraith. He was using Wraith before the season 5 as well, but his main was Wraith.
Pathfinder pick rate is still high, so i don`t see a problem at all.
- @LordloshBang 15 seconds is not a joke, you’ve said that on every post you’ve made but your logic of why it’s a joke doesn’t make sense. You say his ability has a CD so short it’s laughable, but what you’re complaining about is what grapple does, youre saying you dislike how powerful the highground is but increasing the CD doesn’t make pathfinder get any less highground, it just makes him get it less frequently. Saying “spammable” doesn’t mean anything. Watson fences are spammable, caustic traps are spammable, revenant silence is spammable, mirage is spammable, bangalore is spammable, they all just have different utility other than getting highground. Path’s ability was never spammable for the beginning so i don’t know what your definition of spammable is.
High ground is obviously very powerful, it has nothing to do with player bias since I’m a wraith main and wraith has no capabilities of getting highground. No one ever said highground is bad, i’m just saying there are counters to highground and just because path gets highground doesn’t mean he wins the fight, oftentimes highground is small ledges which are susceptible to grenades which forces you off the highground.
Octane definitely needs some buffs, which by the way you have provided literally no suggestions for. A good simple one would be increasing flight path speed so he’s harder to hit. Path’s zipline is susceptible to the same thing, being shot midair. And it’s still very linear.
Loba isn’t just about getting highground it’s about relocating without being shot and you can go through windows and doors and stuff, lots of parts of the map involve buildings not just uncontested highground. Path’s needs to be on a lower CD so that he can take advantage of his mobility.
What does it even mean “pathfinder chasing” when you said it in the first place? If you’re path and you all in to try and kill someone you’re going to get shot midair and mowed down by his entire team, your team can’t keep up with the dive pace of it. You talk about it like he can just chase you for free with no consequences, just hit your shots. If your whole team is knocked and he dives on you, do you believe it’s unfair that he kills you and you can’t run away? You say you’re trying to chase a path, why would you even try that? His kit revolves around not being chased, so it seems irrelivent to mention it.
Your point about buffing exactly what i agree with, don’t touch the “OP” one, which is what they did here, they touched the “OP” one. They should be buffing underpowered heroes.
You shouldn’t talk about Abrilelie, it’s not relevant to this. Pro teams run pathfinder for zip lines and for his beacon passive (mostly his passive) because it allows early ring rotation. They do not pick pathfinder because he has an “OP” grapple CD. If this nerf actually impacted path, his pick rate would be way lower and he would be subbed for caustic or gibby in pro play. The fact that he is still picked reinforces my point that the nerf was unnecessary.
You are incorrect about it being a “2 legend fest”, you can play literally any legend up to like high diamond if you’re good it doesn’t matter. Pro will always have watson wraith flex.
Your last statement is correct, so leave them alone and buff other heroes. @DARAPTURE07FPS has nothing to do with anything but camera placement. As the definition of words have told you previously. FPS means FIRST PERSON SHOOTER. Which is refering to the camera being where your face is and all you are able to see is your gun. So yes this and EVERY game at that camera angle is 1000000000000000000000% a fps
- @LordloshBang It would appear a great deal of you people have a missconception about what a fps is or is supposed to be. FPS just means first person shooter. Thats it. No more, no less. It give no clues to story, game content, or gameplay other than where the camera is going to be . Thats why a battle royal is a fps and pre warzone COD is a fps. Hell timesplitters on the ninetedno 64 was a fps, golden eye was an fps. Its just a camera angle so having expectations about how a fps should be beyond seeing nothing but your gun is totally wrong.
- @SplashDatex You are 100% correect my friend. Pathfinder is my favorite legend because of his mobility and high ground being easily attainable. I do not however give up on the high ground cause I'm not playing pathfinder. I hate to break it to these people but every legend can climb stuff and if you aren't trying to ALWAYS get high ground you messed up son.
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