[Megathread] Pathfinder Changes Feedback

Product: Apex Legends
Platform:Microsoft XBOX One
Please specify your platform model. Microsoft Xbox One S
What is your gamertag/PSN ID/EA Account name? Rj10ten
Please provide your squad mates' gamertag/PSN ID/EA Account name if possible. Duhthunderfox
Are you using any software with an overlay? No
Which Legend were you playing (if applicable)? Pathfinder
Which Legends were your squad mates using (if applicable)? Wraith
Where did the issue occur? In a match
Which part of the map or menu were you in? If you don't remember the exact name, please describe the area or what you were trying to do in the menu. Grapes takes to long. And wrath’s tactical takes to long
What were you doing when the issue occurred? E.g. respawning a squad mate at a beacon, using an ability, a squad mate left the game. Yes
Did your squad mates also experience the issue? Yes
How many matches had you played in a row before the issue occurred? All
When did this happen? (dd.mm.yy hh:mm) Every game
How often does the bug occur? Every time (100%)
How severe is your issue? Major impacts to gameplay
What happens when the bug occurs? Can’t live and I think it takes to long
What should be happening instead? Pathfinder’s grappling hook should go back to normal
Steps: How can we find the bug ourselves? Fix him

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To long

No it was not fun. It was unbalance. Maybe fun for the people that were abusing it, but not for the guys that were affected by it.

This is a shooting game, not ability fiesta.

You should rely on your skill, not Overpowered abilities. You actually need skills to play him now.

This is what actually brain looks like:

from Apollosyk

"So i know all pathfinder mains are upset

but lets look at the facts

1. pros will not stop using pathfinder in ranked due to his passive and ult

2. pathinfder was way to mobile and the cooldown nerf was needed

3. to those saying that he needed the mobility because hitbox he actually has one of the smallest hitboxes , the gaming merchant has calculated it

4. yall were crying when the low prof nerf dropped but after a week you just got used to it so the same wil happen here

5. now pro pathfinders will learn to use his grapple with more efficient while we will get rid of some of the mediocre path mains (they cant keep grappling in a battle so they need to learn how to be more accurate with it) causing pathfinder to have a higher skill gap , which is needed if you want apex to see more pro scene

6. even if all of the reasons dont matter, we needed a change to the meta and finally caustic and others might see more pro play "

Again just wrong. Literally every pro quit playing path for ranked and swithced to Loba instead.

@LordloshBangI mean yeah we can 1v1, just odnt cry to me afterwards... I have been predator for 2 seasons and have 5kdr 800-900adr while you are sitting with your * on bronze celebrating the path nerf. You will still get pooped on tho, path nerf or not, so you dont really have any reason to celebrate... plus I doubt that you ever played against any decent pathfinders thanks to SBMM.

In other words you are literally entirely skillless and yet think you can somehow have an opinion on how game balance should look like. Please, get good at the game and then come back to the forums.

First and foremost, I'd like to thank the developers at Respawn for delivering such a content rich update for Season 5. Second, I have long been a fan of this game series since Titanfall 1. I have more hours logged on Titanfall, Titanfall 2, and Apex Legends than any other video game. The Respawn team has truly done a remarkable job developing exceptional games. 

I have been a player of Apex since the day it launched, and have not played many other games since. I have also been a ride-or-die Pathfinder player since launch day. I completely agree that a reduction in power was necessary for Season 5, as his quick grapple recharge did often make fights "muddy". I noticed this both while fighting other Pathfinders as well as when winning fights I really had no business winning. However, this nerf has made him completely unplayable. Increasing the cooldown time for this ability to 20 to 25 seconds would have been more than sufficient to balance this character. However, 35 seconds truly makes him nearly useless. This is now the longest recharge of any tactical ability, and with his zipline having very specific usefulness, Pathfinder is often left without any abilities at all in a fight. Furthermore, I fail to see why the grapple cooldown is longer than Loba's Bracelet, as this offers much quicker repositioning with much greater range. 

I would like to offer two possible changes to Pathfinder that I seriously hope the developers will consider:

1) Reduce grapple recharge time to 25 seconds

-OR-

2) Allow two useable grapples (like Revenant or Bangalore), each with a 60 second cooldown.

I'm sure I'm not the first to mention my displeasure with the Pathfinder changes. I hope the developers take the community's feedback to heart and make Pathfinder a useable legend again. It's disappointing that instead of playing Season 5 the way I'd like to at the competitive level I am used to and enjoying the new content, I'm either trying to learn how to use a different legend (which is like trying to completely re-learn the game) or getting completely outplayed using my favorite character that has become unusable.

pathfinder pickrate s5: from 20% to 1%

bronze 4 players on forums: "tHe NeRf WaS NeCesSaRy G🤭d JoB rEsPaWn"

First and foremost, I'd like to thank the developers at Respawn for delivering such a content rich update for Season 5. Second, I have long been a fan of this game series since Titanfall 1. I have more hours logged on Titanfall, Titanfall 2, and Apex Legends than any other video game. The Respawn team has truly done a remarkable job developing exceptional games. 

I have been a player of Apex since the day it launched, and have not played many other games since. I have also been a ride-or-die Pathfinder player since launch day. I completely agree that a reduction in power was necessary for Season 5, as his quick grapple recharge did often make fights "muddy". I noticed this both while fighting other Pathfinders as well as when winning fights I really had no business winning. However, this nerf has made him completely unplayable. Increasing the cooldown time for this ability to 20 to 25 seconds would have been more than sufficient to balance this character. However, 35 seconds truly makes him nearly useless. This is now the longest recharge of any tactical ability, and with his zipline having very specific usefulness, Pathfinder is often left without any abilities at all in a fight. Furthermore, I fail to see why the grapple cooldown is longer than Loba's Bracelet, as this offers much quicker repositioning with much greater range. 

I would like to offer two possible changes to Pathfinder that I seriously hope the developers will consider:

1) Reduce grapple recharge time to 25 seconds

-OR-

2) Allow two useable grapples (like Revenant or Bangalore), each with a 60 second cooldown.

I'm sure I'm not the first to mention my displeasure with the Pathfinder changes. I hope the developers take the community's feedback to heart and make Pathfinder a useable legend again. It's disappointing that instead of playing Season 5 the way I'd like to at the competitive level I am used to and enjoying the new content, I'm either trying to learn how to use a different legend (which is like trying to completely re-learn the game) or getting completely outplayed using my favorite character that has become unusable.