Megathread: World's Edge map feedback at launch

Community Manager

6 years ago

@xXKillemSonZXx wrote:

I try my best to run through this map but everywhere I go I can’t find anything usable! I’ll literally be on the ground for 10 mins and never find anything good not to mention they nerfed almost everything so anything you do find is worthless unless you go on a hunt for a hop up or something and even that still doesn’t work. So either bring back kings canyon or fix the loot drop rate cause this is ridiculous.

With a new map comes exploration. I think it's normal to feel like "there isn't enough loot" when you're not sure where all the supply bins are located and where you know loot on the ground will always be. I'm not saying this feedback is invalid, but we would really like you to update this discussion in the coming weeks on how you feel about the loot placement once we all get more accustomed to the new map.

In case anyone didn't see it, this was mentioned in the patch notes, so it's very possible Kings Canyon will make a return.

WHERE IS KINGS CANYON?

For the start of Season 3 World’s Edge will be the only playable map across both regular and ranked matches. As the season progresses we’ll be looking at data, sentiment, and feedback to help us determine the best way to bring Kings Canyon back into the mix.

We would love to hear your overall thoughts on specific regions of World's Edge. The map is not going away, so if there are areas of it you feel give players too much of an advantage (ex: high ground, too much coverage, choke points) please be detailed. If you come across situations where a certain structure gives a makeup of specific Legends too big of an advantage, share that example so we can ping it to the team.

Thanks for creating the discussion and we look forward to your thoughts.

Adanmc95
6 years ago
@EA_Blueberrya really weird answer. basically a copy-paste of an old communicate. We are not talking about a specific area, we are talking about the overall map. The graphic detail is so far from kings canyon cause the big map doesnt allow for specific detailed zones. Everything looks generic and uncompleted. (Giant empty zones and a lot of clonic buildings with nothing inside, just like the empty kilometric zombie survivals games from years ago) the space desing is awfull (anyone test this before launch? ) and only allow for camping and use de 2 or 3 weapons that actually are not broken) even more with the supersonic microscopic cyptos dron. The full map is wrong and we cand find any good thing on it. Is totally designed for keep the really casual gamers and campers on the game and limit the pro players. (I am not one of them) . Wattson was a terrible legend (its like creepy dumb person) and literally only function is camping. But a damn drone on this map? Its really anoying and nosense the actual game state. Please, dont answer us with old copy pastes or saying to the user that they are kind of slow blind person and his feedback is bassically wrong if you dont like it.
itzKlever
6 years ago
@EA_Blueberry no
- Adanmc95
  6 years ago
  And there is not any decent answer from the stuff. Is a kind obvious that EA is dong this. How manu great games and studios are you gong to kill?
  - EA_Blueberry
    Community Manager
    6 years ago
    Hey this is all some great feedback and obviously it would be awesome to hear from everyone "the loot has been amazing in the map!", but even though that's not the case, discussions like this will help the team navigate in the direction that's best for the community.
    
    After playing for a good solid 2 nights it feel like in some areas there is a ton of loot on the ground but the distance to go from one spot to another is further, so sticking together with your team is even MORE CRITICAL than Kings Canyon because if one of your squadmates is across the way in another building and has trouble gearing up, gets attacked, that distance to get to them takes that much longer. Seems like we all have to make smarter decisions on our looting behavior.
    
    Do you all loot in tighter formations on the new map?
    
    To switch up the discussion a little bit as well, where have you all had the best success finding a bountiful amount of loot? Do you try to consistently drop at the same spot several matches in a row or mix up your landings? A couple friends and I have been dropping at the same spots each night so we get used to where the supply bins and drops on the ground are at. That at least helps us get started before we move on to the next spot to gear up.
arloch88
6 years ago
the new map, for what it is, is nice. the new lower single story buildings (like the ones around geyser) are nice and have a good flow to them. they provide some cover and are fun to fight in. perhaps the bathroom doors in some of the buildings could be a bit bigger so people can jump out and not get gassed to death by a caustic with no hope of escape (saw it on reddit).
the peaked roofs on WE are slightly harder to jump over but they provide far better cover than the peaked roofs in KC imo. ive had a few very fun fights in capital city, the city as a whole has an interesting flow to it but the fights were fun. particularly the ones that involved more than 1 squad. i haven't had many close quarters fights in any of the construction sites or larger buildings but running through them, it looks like it could be fun and interesting.
the train yard is probably my favorite so far, it feels the most like apex. cover, walls to jump over, nice sight lines, high ground. its enjoyable. refinery has been nice but i tend to have a hard time getting to land there.
the epicenter and thermal station, the towers are cool. they give a good vantage point to snipe from and a good spot to perch up as crypto to scout the area and snipe/support from. between the 2 id favor epicenter over thermal. the terrain makes for better fights imo.
the loot spread on WE inside of POIs isn't bad after the drop getting a gun and ammo isn't hard even tho it feels like ive been picking up a lot of 2020s recently getting a better gun doesn't take long. outside of POIs loot bins seem to be sparse and i thought i'd be learning their locations and finding more of them, i haven't. i'm not sure if its because they aren't there or i'm just putting in less hours since KC isn't available.
that being said, please give me to choice to play on KC. given the choice i would not queue for WE. the map as a whole is far to large and i am frequently reminded of pubg, without the cars. there are aspects of this map i would like to see on KC, like some of the buildings, some better terrain or lava as a hazard to navigate around. with more high ground and better terrain i do find myself looking up and around more on WE. the loot spots on this map aren't bad, they're just too far apart. most of the fights i have been in have been a blind ambush or a 1 v 1 that probably was a chore to get to.
aside from the intense close quarters combat everyone loves in apex, my most fun fights in apex have been mid range sniping matches, which on KC wasn't hard to get. on WE with the low muzzle velocity and extreme bullet drop of snipers, shooting at 300+m is a pain and not fun to do regularly. i feel like when this map was made, it was made for top tier streamers to play on, the people who can hit their shots and barely ever miss and mechanically are very good at fps games. the cover as a whole is minimal and difficult to get to if you are running between POIs with only small spots of scattered high ground. regardless of actual distance, it feels like these POIs are incredibly far apart.
personally i would like the option to play KC again or i would like a 3rd map to come out. playing on WE doesn't really feel like the type of apex i enjoy, aside from the occasional night i'd like to run around and snipe(the LTM shotty/snipers would be cool here) i would tend to shy away from wanting to play on WE
- DarthVaapar
  6 years ago
  The new map is hands down better than King’s Canyon. Many more diverse environments, map positioning and the ring itself actually mean something now, the train, it’s just better. King’s Canyon was a good map. This new one is better. 3rd partying still exists, but it’s not the impact meta it was. Sniper rifles are of higher value now. I like it better. It looks and feels better. I think they did a great job creating this map.
  - Nonce_Hunter__D
    6 years ago
    Why has no one mentioned how the cities feel like a tilted tower rip off and even then you have these massive sky scrapers which you can only loot the first 2 floors of and be lucky to find level 1 armour and a peace keeper, also don't know why but I haven't seen an alternator very often, guessing the spawn rate of them was decreased and the spawn rate of p2020s increased.
donthurtm3
6 years ago
Everyone hate the new map. I want Kings Canyon back