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the new map, for what it is, is nice. the new lower single story buildings (like the ones around geyser) are nice and have a good flow to them. they provide some cover and are fun to fight in. perhaps the bathroom doors in some of the buildings could be a bit bigger so people can jump out and not get gassed to death by a caustic with no hope of escape (saw it on reddit).
the peaked roofs on WE are slightly harder to jump over but they provide far better cover than the peaked roofs in KC imo. ive had a few very fun fights in capital city, the city as a whole has an interesting flow to it but the fights were fun. particularly the ones that involved more than 1 squad. i haven't had many close quarters fights in any of the construction sites or larger buildings but running through them, it looks like it could be fun and interesting.
the train yard is probably my favorite so far, it feels the most like apex. cover, walls to jump over, nice sight lines, high ground. its enjoyable. refinery has been nice but i tend to have a hard time getting to land there.
the epicenter and thermal station, the towers are cool. they give a good vantage point to snipe from and a good spot to perch up as crypto to scout the area and snipe/support from. between the 2 id favor epicenter over thermal. the terrain makes for better fights imo.
the loot spread on WE inside of POIs isn't bad after the drop getting a gun and ammo isn't hard even tho it feels like ive been picking up a lot of 2020s recently getting a better gun doesn't take long. outside of POIs loot bins seem to be sparse and i thought i'd be learning their locations and finding more of them, i haven't. i'm not sure if its because they aren't there or i'm just putting in less hours since KC isn't available.
that being said, please give me to choice to play on KC. given the choice i would not queue for WE. the map as a whole is far to large and i am frequently reminded of pubg, without the cars. there are aspects of this map i would like to see on KC, like some of the buildings, some better terrain or lava as a hazard to navigate around. with more high ground and better terrain i do find myself looking up and around more on WE. the loot spots on this map aren't bad, they're just too far apart. most of the fights i have been in have been a blind ambush or a 1 v 1 that probably was a chore to get to.
aside from the intense close quarters combat everyone loves in apex, my most fun fights in apex have been mid range sniping matches, which on KC wasn't hard to get. on WE with the low muzzle velocity and extreme bullet drop of snipers, shooting at 300+m is a pain and not fun to do regularly. i feel like when this map was made, it was made for top tier streamers to play on, the people who can hit their shots and barely ever miss and mechanically are very good at fps games. the cover as a whole is minimal and difficult to get to if you are running between POIs with only small spots of scattered high ground. regardless of actual distance, it feels like these POIs are incredibly far apart.
personally i would like the option to play KC again or i would like a 3rd map to come out. playing on WE doesn't really feel like the type of apex i enjoy, aside from the occasional night i'd like to run around and snipe(the LTM shotty/snipers would be cool here) i would tend to shy away from wanting to play on WE
The new map is hands down better than King’s Canyon. Many more diverse environments, map positioning and the ring itself actually mean something now, the train, it’s just better. King’s Canyon was a good map. This new one is better. 3rd partying still exists, but it’s not the impact meta it was. Sniper rifles are of higher value now. I like it better. It looks and feels better. I think they did a great job creating this map.
- 6 years ago
Why has no one mentioned how the cities feel like a tilted tower rip off and even then you have these massive sky scrapers which you can only loot the first 2 floors of and be lucky to find level 1 armour and a peace keeper, also don't know why but I haven't seen an alternator very often, guessing the spawn rate of them was decreased and the spawn rate of p2020s increased.
- EA_Blueberry6 years ago
Community Manager
@Nonce_Hunter__DX wrote:
Why has no one mentioned how the cities feel like a tilted tower rip off and even then you have these massive sky scrapers which you can only loot the first 2 floors of and be lucky to find level 1 armour and a peace keeper, also don't know why but I haven't seen an alternator very often, guessing the spawn rate of them was decreased and the spawn rate of p2020s increased.
Does anyone else feel stressed out when you zip up the structure and jump off into one of the floors only to hear footsteps happening all around you? On top of that, zip-line sounds...."where are they coming from?!?" 😛
- 6 years ago
@EA_Blueberry
I am good at looting with enemy squads around me. (Hot-Looting)
The key, is to avoid them while looting and don't pick a fight.
Most will continue looting, and the team pathfinder will move to the top floor to look for enemies positions.
Its kinda like metal gear solid enemies. If they hear you they go into alert mode. But if they spot you they go into assault mode and start shooting and chasing you.
Its a skill that come with experience.
Most noobs lack the ability to loot hot, and get killed. XD
- 6 years ago@DarthVaapar Strange I find 3rd parties to be much worse on this map because they usually happen in open spaces where there's nowhere to run.
It seemed easier to recover from a 3rd party and fight back in KC. Possiblt because there was more cover and you could hide and heal, then, counterattack.- 6 years ago@KristianBrasil See I feel the opposite. There’s cover everywhere, if you pay attention and follow it on approach. KC has cover too, but you could largely just run in a strait line to your destination. Now, when you’re not pushing distant gunfire, you just have to be a little more savvy. Awareness of elevated sight lines is now a great new layer of gameplay.
- 6 years ago@KristianBrasil
Absolutely agree! 3rd parties have turned into 4 or 5 parties now with 1 or 2 of those squads having no cover or chance to survive. Maybe this was the intent of the developers? To create more action?
Not sure but is frustrating when you are on the bad side of it.- 6 years ago@BovinePiracy And the charge rifle is just the cherry on the cake. Getting 3rd partied by someone with it is devastating.
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