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5 years ago

MOUSE AND KEYBOARD FOR CONSOLE/CROSSPLAY

I wish EA would add M&K support for consoles when crossplay finally comes out. Console players should not have to invite a PC player on their squad just to turn on crossplay. Console players should ...

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MoNosDirtyGamin

5 years ago

@Popa2caps If they add keyboard support back to consoles then it will just be full of players exploiting again with cheats etc. Once they took this feature off console it reduced the amount of cheaters heavily, this is why I fully support it staying off console.

E9ine_AC

Hero+

5 years ago

I actually find it wrong for console users to play against console users using mouse and keyboard. Just like on pc where things will be manipulated to give a player a edge over another. M/K movement is completely different from controller. So for console users to use this means you are giving yourself a advantage over fellow console users. While you see it as harmless those on console who cant move as you do or even stand a chance is harmful. Thats just my 2 cents.

As far as i can tell console players dont get advantages over others as its strict controller verse controller. This is most fair gameplay one could ever ask for. You know how bad id wish pc was against pc users only? Not these 3rd party players using Strike packs - Xim and more. With these 2 = a aim assist from hell and back. These 3rd party plug in devices allow you to trick the pc into thinking that the controller is the main source of the pc in mouse movement. So whats this add? Aim assist to mouse and keyboard. Also plug in the recoil macros that are normally on xim web sites openly gave these 2 together = 100% unfair game play on PC. You be best to never want to try Pc unless you care to play with others who manipulate the games mechanics and nothing happening to them whats so ever.

MoNosDirtyGamin
5 years ago
Honestly buddy I've played on PC with my girl and it wasn't that much different but I didn't really enjoy it on PC due to the movement system from controller not being as smooth as it is on console. Maybe we can both agree that since Respawn agree that M&K don't belong on consoles, then maybe controller shouldn't be supported on PC? But it may also be too late for that as many players are already able to play via controller on PC already. There would be an outcry from pro players as they would be forced to move to a new system (console) and purchase new equipment to record (like an elgato if they don't already have one).
As far as i can tell console players dont get advantages over others as its strict controller verse controller.
As you suggested earlier, some players use a default PS4 controller (like myself) and others use a controller worth valuably more to gain the advantage of never having to use CLAW or having added buttons on the back, this does indeed give you an advantage over others unless you're very adjusted to using CLAW.
While you see it as harmless those on console who cant move as you do or even stand a chance is harmful
If we took your theory; then by that standard, since you stated that most M&K players are bad, and I know there are quite a bunch of pro PC players, wouldn't that also be classed as harmful? I do not think of it this way because for every single game you will find good and bad players. What Respawn need to do is start banning PC players who cheat with a harsh ban just like they did on PS4. When I play on PS4 it doesn't feel like anyone is cheating to kill me anymore; this hasn't happened since season 4-5, so they are definitely going thoroughly through everything to make sure that Apex is Cheater-free. However as consoles are rather limited; on PC you will always find a workaround for it, I believe this is the issue as to why players are more likely to be found cheating on PC.
- E9ine_AC
  Hero+
  5 years ago
  @MoNosDirtyGaming I am actually fully against controller players being on a pc platform. If they wanna plug their controller into a system to play then it should be the system the controller is design for consoles. I hate absolutely hate that i have to play against controller users on pc. It gives them a advantage. While some may say well we cant move to loot like you can. Which is worse though in the end? Having aim assist or hendered loot? Aim assist over does the loot mechanics by far.
  - MoNosDirtyGamin
    5 years ago
    @E9ine_AC I agree with you, honestly I could care less if I was able to sway while looting, yes it would give an advantage against getting hit by a kraber shot, but that is what builds into the RNG experience of playing Apex.
    
    Something definitely does need to be done about controller on PC, they could just cap their Frame rate at 60, to make it feel like they have no advantage over consoles but this would easily be visible. I guess this is one for the dev team to figure out and I do one day hope you achieve the result you want!