Hello,Those of us with OLEDs displays and playing this game a lot are starting to get burn-in, or more appropriately named, image retention. It is specifically the squads remaining HUD element on the top right. It is pure white and black (pixels fully white/bright and pixels black/off) and is very similar through out the match. I have heard Plasma displays also having the issue. I actually don't want to play as much simply because of the image retention. It is lasting now even days after my last binge of playing Apex.Can there be more HUD options for opacity to certain elements? I came up with the following after trying to think on this for a while, both for burn in, as well has HUD clutter/focus:HUD - You have 2 main opacity sliders, one for "active" elements, say 90-100% default, and one for "inactive" elements, say 50% or 75% default. If an element, say your health or squads left counter, has not changed in the last 5 seconds, it will dim to the value you set for "inactive" elements.AR - I would also like to suggest second set of opacity sliders for AR elements (pings, waypoint pings, revive/recover, etc), specifically, that are near your crosshair. You would have the option of how wide the radius around your crosshair is which acts as the threshold for when AR/elements dim. And like the HUD, there are two opacity sliders. In this case, one opacity slider for AR elements outside this radius, another slider for AR elements inside the crosshair radius.Primarily, this gives the player the freedom to style how they want information presented and balance it against their ability to see the actual world/enemies/etc. Also, people like me who have displays that can suffer from image retention can help prevent any image retention.Thanks!

Having had plasma,led,lcd tv’s and now oled I too would love an option for hud transparency or any static graphic for that matter. I made the transition awhile ago to gaming monitors for gaming For just these reasons.. Just to clarify burn in is permanent damage to the screen elements, retention is the pixel retaining the image color which usually is not permanent. Coming from the plasma era burn in was a dirty word, my Magnavox 60 got it from the old Star Wars battlefront. Big Death Star circle middle of the screen. Boy was I pissed.@Koochi-Q the only reason you don’t see it is because your teammates leave the game right away after dying landing at train station. Their information isn’t on your hud long enough.

Just as an added note: I take proper care of my electronics and never let the tv sit idle or leave a game on the pause screen. I always shut it off when not in use and even usually take a few minute break between games or at least every couple of games so the screen would not have been completely static the entire time playing.

At this point if people play FPS games on OLED screens its natural seection dude

OR alternatively, EA could acknowledge that their customers will buy all different types of TV and could then offer features like HUD transparency to cater for them. It's not like it's a new thing, tvs have been getting burn in for decades. Your reply: "HAHA buy an LED" isn't much help.

Yeah, I had a Panasonic plasma before this Oled, I didn't believe it would look so much better, but it does. Not to knock the plasma, I had it 7/8 years and it still looks good. Also the oled was twice the price of the plasma! I guess it depends how much apex you play, I was playing it every day for a while and had to stop as it was getting burnt into my plasma screen. I stopped and it went away, fortunately.I'd love to get back into playing apex but having just spent so much on my new tv, I don't want to risk it. I don't know why they won't allow transparency, it must be such a minor thing for them to add.

BlackKnight6

7 years ago

OLED burn in/image retention due to HUD. Busy HUD

Hello,

Those of us with OLEDs displays and playing this game a lot are starting to get burn-in, or more appropriately named, image retention. It is specifically the squads remaining HUD element on the top right. It is pure white and black (pixels fully white/bright and pixels black/off) and is very similar through out the match. I have heard Plasma displays also having the issue. I actually don't want to play as much simply because of the image retention. It is lasting now even days after my last binge of playing Apex.

Can there be more HUD options for opacity to certain elements? I came up with the following after trying to think on this for a while, both for burn in, as well has HUD clutter/focus:

HUD - You have 2 main opacity sliders, one for "active" elements, say 90-100% default, and one for "inactive" elements, say 50% or 75% default. If an element, say your health or squads left counter, has not changed in the last 5 seconds, it will dim to the value you set for "inactive" elements.
AR - I would also like to suggest second set of opacity sliders for AR elements (pings, waypoint pings, revive/recover, etc), specifically, that are near your crosshair. You would have the option of how wide the radius around your crosshair is which acts as the threshold for when AR/elements dim. And like the HUD, there are two opacity sliders. In this case, one opacity slider for AR elements outside this radius, another slider for AR elements inside the crosshair radius.

Primarily, this gives the player the freedom to style how they want information presented and balance it against their ability to see the actual world/enemies/etc. Also, people like me who have displays that can suffer from image retention can help prevent any image retention.

Thanks!

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21 Replies

SHIZNICKMASTA
6 years ago
@BlackKnight6 I have an oled E7 which is slightly under 2 years old and this game has destroyed my television. By the time I started to notice it, it was too late and had severe image retention of the 3 team member huds on the left, the middle ultimate box, and color degradation throughout the middle.
BlackKnight6
6 years ago
Man, that's a bummer to hear dude. I haven't played since I posted this. Pretty pissed since I had only played about a week or so of the first season, that I paid for, and had to stop.
Guess they got their 10 bucks outta me. There is no way I am reinstalling until they implement a HUD that has similar or better options than what I listed. Even then, kinda over the game now.
Koochi-Q
6 years ago
@BlackKnight6 Did you guys leave your screen that long on on that image? I have an LG Oled as well dunno if it’s C7 or higher anymore and I played this game since the beginning but have 0 burn in effect. Maybe cause I use the dark mode all the time with Game mode and the screen ‘refreshes’ regularly
BlackKnight6
6 years ago
I have game mode (low latency) on all the time, and I even run the screen in dark room mode (ISF) because it's more accurate colors and it's also dimmer for the dark room/theater experience I go for, so that should actually be very gentle on the screen compared to * settings like vivid. I use the screen refresher frequently to reduce how long it takes to get rid of the image retention.
We aren't leaving the game on some menu or anything, it is just the fact that the HUD has so much pure, opaque white elements right up against opaque black elements that are always static (no HUD sway or dimming, etc) that it causes image retention very quickly when you play for several hours every day. It shows up in about 2 weeks and then takes a week or so of not playing Apex to get it to go away.
I exclusively game on my TV and this is the first game to have an issue like this.
FaIIenAngeI777
6 years ago
@BlackKnight6No Idea if it would even phase it but I had a plasma screen mess up years ago and there was this thing i forget the name that you just played on it for so many hours just a plain screen that flashes snd changes colors white blue red green etc and it fixed it in certain situations depending on how bad the burn in is
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=kfNJi_LoAK4
This is an example, 8 hours not saying its guarenteed to work but I did something similiar in the past
mastiffslinger
6 years ago
Having had plasma,led,lcd tv’s and now oled I too would love an option for hud transparency or any static graphic for that matter. I made the transition awhile ago to gaming monitors for gaming For just these reasons.
. Just to clarify burn in is permanent damage to the screen elements, retention is the pixel retaining the image color which usually is not permanent. Coming from the plasma era burn in was a dirty word, my Magnavox 60 got it from the old Star Wars battlefront. Big Death Star circle middle of the screen. Boy was I pissed.
@Koochi-Q the only reason you don’t see it is because your teammates leave the game right away after dying landing at train station. Their information isn’t on your hud long enough.
BlackKnight6
6 years ago
That is the screen refresher. My two previous plasmas and now my OLED have it built-in. The week following the image retention from Apex, I used that feature for HOURS to speed up the recovery, sometimes even overnight. Still took over a week to eliminate it.
That's my point of this thread. 2 weeks of heavy Apex gameplay and then I need a week of not playing Apex, playing other games/content instead AND leave it refreshing overnight to get rid of Apex's HUD starting to show as image retention.
Srksii
6 years ago
Actually... Whining of people with mega expensive monitors is only thing that could make Respawn finally improve hud! I strongly support !
SHIZNICKMASTA
6 years ago
I bought an LG E7 OLED a couple of years which is beautiful and very expensive. I was in gaming and movie bliss. Apex dropped, it quickly became my favorite game, and then a couple of months ago I noticed it. Complete Burn in of the squad boxes on the left and the ultimate in the middle. Devastated as my tv was just then out of warranty. LG finally agreed to send a service repair except that I live in a remote area and there are none near me so they refuse to help me out in any other way. I completely stopped playing Apex on my TV but even though the game is no longer playing on it, it somehow continues to get worse. This is a Warning for any of you that have or plan on buying an OLED to use with APEX. I have found a few others with the same exact issue occurring, but because the number of gamers with OLED tvs that play Apex is so low Respawn has yet to acknowledge the issue. They need to make these boxes have a transparent option.
SHIZNICKMASTA
6 years ago
Just as an added note:
I take proper care of my electronics and never let the tv sit idle or leave a game on the pause screen. I always shut it off when not in use and even usually take a few minute break between games or at least every couple of games so the screen would not have been completely static the entire time playing.