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Kazer13's avatar
12 months ago

PC movement

I still don't understand how Aim Assist for controllers is too OP but movement on mouse and Keyboard isn't?

9 Replies

  • @Kazer13

    Say the PC people: because one is a crutch for the unskillful, and the other requires skill.

    They're not wrong, but they're also very much not right either. If the developer insists on cross play for the benefit of some minuscule percentage of the population, then they should do everything they can to ensure a level playing field. And PC motion is a mockery of game physics and fairness.

  • They nerfed controller aim assist yet done nothing with movement techs because most of the pros play MNK and cant handle the controller players. they removed steam configs for controllers because it evened the playing field and classed controller movement as cheating, yet those same movement abilities are fine to do on MNK. Its all to do with the response of the pro scene and nothing to do with the casual player. If something is classed as cheating on 1 type of input it is then cheating on all inputs, ive played controller with no aim assist since the start and never had problems switching to PC but i do feel that movement on MNK is broken and needs addressing the same way the pros have had aim assist nerfed for those that use it.

    unfortunately since respawn sold their souls to EA they have cared less about their game and more about how much they can make from recolours of skins to make EA happy. they will never turn back now which is unfortunate because it has turned a once great game with high potential into a low tier game full of cheats and bugs because the developers dont care about the majority of players just what EA can earn from it.

  • E9ine_AC's avatar
    E9ine_AC
    Hero+
    11 months ago
    @AverageDMG9 Hey im not sure if you are aware but..... 95% of the pro population of apex legends is on controller. This includes nearly every single algs player in the game. Controller players highly out number mouse and keyboard in a competitive way and in standard pubs.

    So with that data at hand which can be seen by watching any pro team and seeing at least 2 to all 3 of the teammates are all on controllers. Explain to me how mouse and key is superior and not the input 95% of the population is using.
  • @Kazer13 

    Movement is player input based. AA is automatic. Thats the difference. High skilled movement doesnt happen by accident or randomly but AA can make you kill someone without you actually being in control (even if its hard to admit or even be aware of it). We all saw what happened on the edge of Bangalore smoke to top ranked pros on controllers, when their AA was totally disabled. They literally became bronze players, just swiping left and right randomly with their crosshair.  Granted, the disabled AA probably threw them off but it still says something about how OP and "positively interfering" AA is.

    And just like it should be, Apex is balanced based on the highest ELO and not based on us casual gamers. And pretty much every ALGS pro says that controller is superior due to AA. So personally, I find it rather ridiculus to be upset over AA as a casual player, like me grinding in diamond for instance. But I understand the design choice for PRO skille level

  • c0ld1's avatar
    c0ld1
    New Scout
    11 months ago

    I think anyone would agree that the PC movement is silly in this game and no respectable game is going to allow people to do the kinds of things you can macro together in this game. It's definitely frustrating when you come up against someone that is doing ariel acrobats that are impossible in a gun fight. 

  • TheGirthyTrunk's avatar
    TheGirthyTrunk
    Rising Traveler
    11 months ago

    @E9ine_AC out of how many of those players that are playing on Controller that switch are not using some sort of device to help with recoil control. I would say its probably pretty high. Is the recoil hard to control no but when you watch the pro's play even at a distance the gun never moves at all. I play MNK and i can't aim like that at distance utilizing my entire arm. I mean come on we can't all be naive that their are pros out there who are cheating in every game not just this one. The reason why they are switching to controller is because AA is broken af.

  • ComicBookGuy2727's avatar
    ComicBookGuy2727
    Seasoned Ace
    11 months ago

    The PC movement in this game does look ridiculous... embarrassing even for a high comp game. I'm not arguing that AA needed a nerf, but the PC movement just visually looks broken and comical. 

  • @AverageDMG9Why do you just claim random things that anybody can just refute by checking algs…since e9ine did alrdy refute this nonsense let’s go to next point…

    They removed steam configs because they are CONFIGS… any automation is cheating, has nothing to do with the inputdevice lol. That’s the difference you don’t need configs for movement on mnk, some might use them sure but that is again against the rules… they HAD to forbid steam configs because if they didn’t how you justify forbidding other configs.

  • Kazer13's avatar
    Kazer13
    11 months ago
    @Balladalidila That would be an almost acceptable answer... If you could do the movements on controller that you can do on mouse and keyboard... But you can't. It's physically impossible. You also, can't move your aim as quickly on a controller as you can with MNK.