If you ever figure out a way to separate these people into their own lobbies the health of this game would improve drastically. I'd rather be paired with a bot that could be a meatbag in my general vicinity as opposed to just dying far away where nobody can clean up their kills.
Gonna play the devils advocate now but sometimes (but definitely now always), the reason your random teammate pushes and just dies is because you didnt follow =)
Ive been in many situation when I single handedly knock one enemy and do 120 of 150 dmg on the second without loosing any HP myself. I then check the teammates HP on the HUD and see they are both full and I spam enemy here to indicate that I am going in to finish this easy 3 vs 1.2 fight. I go in, fight, perhaps knocks the one I already cracked and then dies to the last player but thinks to myself "no worries, my two full health teammates will 2v1 this guy easy" but realizes they ran the other way and now is half way up a jump tower and says "wHY dO yoU pUSh AnD dIE nOOOb???" =). There are so many playing styles and none of them is "objectively" the right one.
I usually ask "aggro or safe" at the beginning of the match, or try to assess based on their legend pick and the weapons they choose what kind of players they are. A Wraith and an Octane with shotgun and SMG will probably push everything whereas a Caustic and a Watson with a sniper will probably play more defensive =)
But then there are ofc those who just dont care. They rather fight, die and join another match if they dont win that fight. This also in ranked if they are smurfs.
I can't stand dropping far away from action and looting forever. I get pushing the action. But what I'll do for example is go to a fight solo and stay on the perimeter and usually the teammates will follow. Or I'll get the enemies attention and bring them to my teammates.
But it's just so strange that so many players will just push a 1 v 3 and die. The fact that people will get separated somehow and push solo and die, sometimes it seems to me I'll have a session where it's 80 to 90 percent of the time. Like what is going on? And then they'll just quit.
I think there should be an option for people to tag players with a label. You shouldn't be able to see your label, but maybe being labeled by everyone else can help shuffle people into teams that are more productive.
Yeah, I never think you should hard push unless you got some kind of advantage, either in terms of total HP of the team, or position wise, like high ground etc. Only exception is ofc if you have to push like when you fight for position during the last rounds. Too many players just hard pushes for no reason just because they wanna frag, like you said, straight into a 1v3 and dies straight away
In ranked, the main reason for this is ofc that too few people play at their peak rank, i,e they are smurfing. Might not be their fault because of Respawns fondess for resets hehe. If every player played and their peak rank, trying hard to climb, they wouldnt do this. Only when you know that you generally are better than your opponents and/or doesnt care and just plays for fun, you push like an idiot = smurfs
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"Gonna play the devils advocate now but sometimes (but definitely now always), the reason your random teammate pushes and just dies is because you didnt follow =) "
Nope.
They went in and I didn't follow because they didn't want to move as a team. It's on them. Each player needs to evaluate each engagement and the TEAM must agree, or there is no team work.
The most successful teams are those that MOVE AS A TEAM.
Full stop.
I love to drop hot because I am anticipating the engagement. It is far easier when you are not focused on running around looking for an engagement.
Also, there are times when I am tired after a number of matches I tend to want to drop safe to take my time.
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